is there a way for tesla to upgrade seats

[lapischest]

is there a way for tesla to upgrade the 2017 seats to the latest

 

[glide]

is there a way for tesla to upgrade the 2017 seats to the latest

Yes there is but they won’t.

You are on your own if you want to retrofit seats.

 

[lapischest]

Yes there is but they won’t.

You are on your own if you want to retrofit seats.

are the 2018 model x seats vegan?

 

[forkee]

are you going to eat them lol

yes

Tesla now sells only its "premium" synthetic leather interior

 

[lapischest]

are you going to eat them lol

yes

Tesla now sells only its "premium" synthetic leather interior

no im not gonna eat them, its because the tesla model x 2018 seats black always look new

 

[thevaibhav]

i did, on my 2017 MX.. those seats were uncomfortable.. i did just the driver seat.. it was not cheap ($3500)

 

[VikH]

i did, on my 2017 MX.. those seats were uncomfortable.. i did just the driver seat.. it was not cheap ($3500)

how much was labor vs. parts?

 

[lapischest]

i did, on my 2017 MX.. those seats were uncomfortable.. i did just the driver seat.. it was not cheap ($3500)

is it black and vegan?

 

[Uncle Paul]

I had a 2017 X and now the 2020. The plastic seats in the 20 are more comfy, but do not breath like the earlier leather. No sure which I like better.

 

[TOBASH]

Ventilated leather is hands down the best.

If I ever upgrade I'm keeping my ventilated leather seats and my retractable spoiler.

 

[thevaibhav]

is it black and vegan?

I know its black.. i dont know if its vegan, i never asked.. the old seats were painful, these are much better !

 

[thevaibhav]

how much was labor vs. parts?

$3800 or so.. i can try to locate the invoice if you want a precise number over the weekend..

 

[Cwub]

Tobash

what do you like about the ventilated seats? The non ventilated looks more comfortable and also more durable. I see a lot of tearing and peeling on the ventilated seats.

 

[lapischest]

$3800 or so.. i can try to locate the invoice if you want a precise number over the weekend..

why is it soo expensive the old should be worth somthing

 

[MXLRplus]

Good news bad news.

Good news is a new optional seat is coming.

Bad news is it's a trim level:

At least they won't have to skin as many Vegans to make these seats.

 

[TOBASH]

Tobash

what do you like about the ventilated seats? The non ventilated looks more comfortable and also more durable. I see a lot of tearing and peeling on the ventilated seats.

They are physically cooler and cause less sweat IMHO, and when I turn on the A/C they allow the A/C to keep my back and thighs and butt cooler. Pre-conditioning the car makes cooling most noticeable. You actually feel the cooled air from the seat. Without A/C they seem to breathe better. It's like leather that also has the ability to breathe like fabric because of the interstices.

I see others have posted about ventilated leather flaking, but I have noticed that is mostly with white seats. I think the treated leather of the white seats is stiffer and more fragile. I could be wrong about that but I always think white leather is always a mistake. It yellows and cracks more noticeably IMHO. Making leather white requires bleaching the leather as well as impregnating it with more dye.Just compare white and black sneakers. The leather feels and behaves differently. I know Tesla pushed white seats aggressively, saying they would not discolor, but I never believed it. My black seats have scant almost unnoticeable wrinkling, but have not yet cracked or torn. Over time all seats tear, but so far I have been happy. I drive the car almost daily, and have done so for its entire life since July, 2017. I usually wear jeans, which is a rougher fabric. I am not especially hard on the car, but I also don't baby it with seat covers and such. I don't use cleaners on the seats, and I don't use leather conditioner either...never have.

 

[lapischest]

They are physically cooler and cause less sweat IMHO, and when I turn on the A/C they allow the A/C to keep my back and thighs and butt cooler. Pre-conditioning the car makes cooling most noticeable. You actually feel the cooled air from the seat. Without A/C they seem to breathe better. It's like leather that also has the ability to breathe like fabric because of the interstices.

I see others have posted about ventilated leather flaking, but I have noticed that is mostly with white seats. I think the treated leather of the white seats is stiffer and more fragile. I could be wrong about that but I always think white leather is always a mistake. It yellows and cracks more noticeably IMHO. Making leather white requires bleaching the leather as well as impregnating it with more dye.Just compare white and black sneakers. The leather feels and behaves differently. I know Tesla pushed white seats aggressively, saying they would not discolor, but I never believed it. My black seats have scant almost unnoticeable wrinkling, but have not yet cracked or torn. Over time all seats tear, but so far I have been happy. I drive the car almost daily, and have done so for its entire life since July, 2017. I usually wear jeans, which is a rougher fabric. I am not especially hard on the car, but I also don't baby it with seat covers and such. I don't use cleaners on the seats, and I don't use leather conditioner either...never have.

i kinda like the vegan seats because the yare more durable and i seen on some used tesla model x for sale the black leather seats are not new condition but the 2018 vegan seats look like brand new

 

[ElectricSteve]

Over time all seats tear

Not if you maintain them properly. I'm not talking about "leather conditioner" from Walmart. I use the cleaning cream and moisturising creme (sounds like a bloody tv advert, sorry for that) from the company that supplies Aston Martin and Jaguar's vintage restoration department. Can't remember what the name of that stuff is but I found it on eBay.
That stuff is tha bomb. It has kept the leather of my 2001 Audi A8 soft and smooth as a babies bottom. Looks like new.
The trick is to NOT let the leather dry out. Ever. I go over the entire interior twice a year. That moisturising creme needs a day to dry so pick a day where you know you won't drive or have a "sticky butt" and start over. Totally worth it.

 

[lapischest]

Not if you maintain them properly. I'm not talking about "leather conditioner" from Walmart. I use the cleaning cream and moisturising creme (sounds like a bloody tv advert, sorry for that) from the company that supplies Aston Martin and Jaguar's vintage restoration department. Can't remember what the name of that stuff is but I found it on eBay.
That stuff is tha bomb. It has kept the leather of my 2001 Audi A8 soft and smooth as a babies bottom. Looks like new.
The trick is to NOT let the leather dry out. Ever. I go over the entire interior twice a year. That moisturising creme needs a day to dry so pick a day where you know you won't drive or have a "sticky butt" and start over. Totally worth it.

too much work though

 

[lapischest]

They are physically cooler and cause less sweat IMHO, and when I turn on the A/C they allow the A/C to keep my back and thighs and butt cooler. Pre-conditioning the car makes cooling most noticeable. You actually feel the cooled air from the seat. Without A/C they seem to breathe better. It's like leather that also has the ability to breathe like fabric because of the interstices.

I see others have posted about ventilated leather flaking, but I have noticed that is mostly with white seats. I think the treated leather of the white seats is stiffer and more fragile. I could be wrong about that but I always think white leather is always a mistake. It yellows and cracks more noticeably IMHO. Making leather white requires bleaching the leather as well as impregnating it with more dye.Just compare white and black sneakers. The leather feels and behaves differently. I know Tesla pushed white seats aggressively, saying they would not discolor, but I never believed it. My black seats have scant almost unnoticeable wrinkling, but have not yet cracked or torn. Over time all seats tear, but so far I have been happy. I drive the car almost daily, and have done so for its entire life since July, 2017. I usually wear jeans, which is a rougher fabric. I am not especially hard on the car, but I also don't baby it with seat covers and such. I don't use cleaners on the seats, and I don't use leather conditioner either...never have.

is it better to get the 2018 tesla model x or should i get a 2017 and get the vegan seats from tesla