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Is this 2016 P90DL a good buy?

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I do not know when the cutoff was. There's usually a few different configuration files that the techs need to tweak to enable things in the UI like the Ludicrous underline. It would be totally separate from actually enabling Ludicrous mode.

When I first picked up my P85+, it only said P85 in the instrument cluster.. The service center had to go in and flip a few bits to get it to show up. But it still actually was a P85+ with or without showing in the UI.
 
P100DL's are getting close to $80K, so keep the faith and keep watching for another deal. If the refresh rumor mill is true, we might see some early P100D's in the $70K range in late 2019, then I'm in just like when I bought my P85+ post P85D announcement.

If the rumor mill is true the Model S is getting Permanent magnets Motors (maybe one) “Tesla calls it a PMSRM, Permanent Magnet Switched Reluctance Motor. It’s a new type, and very hard to get right, but Tesla did it!” which would allow the Model S to operate at higher sustained speeds for track use and the use of the new drive motors could increase range and reduce heat/energy losses..... we shall see.. more range is king... I would pay $150K for a 600 mile Model S that could charge in 15 minutes, which means I could drive at 85 until my bladder says stop...

Used Tesla Model S For Sale - CarGurus

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Some pretty good deals pop up on new ones

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Interesting, good to hear your personal experience. I’m still skeptical that they’d price a facelift P90DL so low but I guess I missed out on a great deal.

I was able to extract some cached HTML from those P90DLs when the car detail page was active.
Here's the VIN you posted above -- 5YJSA1E46GF137818 -- where it clearly is being sold/marketed with the Ludicrous upgrade: https://ev-cpo.com/cpo-vin.php?vin=5YJSA1E46GF137818&seq=1

It is a facelift car with AP1, so maybe that's why the price is lower.

You can always subscribe to EV-CPO and be notified when other deals like these pop up. :)
 
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They will get cheaper after this announcement today
The Longest-Range Electric Vehicle Now Goes Even Farther
The Tesla Team April 23, 2019
For more than a decade, Tesla engineers have been obsessed with making the world’s most efficient electric vehicles. As a result, Tesla vehicles already travel farther on a single charge than any other production EV on the market. Today, we’re making changes to Model S and Model X that allow them to travel unprecedented distances without needing to recharge, beating our own record for the longest-range production EVs on the road. And we’ve accomplished this without increasing the cars’ battery size, proving that our expertise in system-level design can make our cars dramatically more efficient.

Beginning today, Model S and Model X now come with an all-new drivetrain design that increases each vehicle’s range substantially, achieving a landmark 370 miles and 325 miles on the EPA cycle for Model S and Model X Long Range, respectively. Using the same 100 kWh battery pack, these design and architecture updates will allow drivers to travel farther than ever before, charging less frequently and getting more range out of every dollar spent on charging.

We’re also introducing a brand-new adaptive suspension system for Model S and Model X, along with a few other improvements for the best range, acceleration, and ride comfort ever, plus a Ludicrous Mode upgrade for our most loyal customers. Here’s what’s new:

More Efficient Design
All Model S and X vehicles now benefit from Tesla’s latest generation of drive unit technology, which combines an optimized permanent magnet synchronous reluctance motor, silicon carbide power electronics, and improved lubrication, cooling, bearings, and gear designs to achieve greater than 93% efficiency. Pairing a permanent magnet motor in the front with an induction motor in the rear enables unparalleled range and performance at all times. The net effect is a more than 10% improvement in range, with efficiency improvements in both directions as energy flows out of the battery during acceleration and back into the battery through regenerative braking. In addition to adding range, power and torque increases significantly across all Model S and Model X variants, improving 0-60 mph times for our Long Range and Standard Range models.

Faster Charging
Paired with the new more efficient drivetrain design, Model S and Model X are now capable of achieving 200 kW on V3 Superchargers and 145 kW on V2 Superchargers. Together, these improvements enable our customers to recharge their miles 50% faster.

Fully Adaptive Suspension
We’ve also upgraded our air suspension system for Model S and Model X with fully-adaptive damping, giving it an ultra-cushioned feel when cruising on the highway or using Autopilot, and a responsive, exhilarating confidence during dynamic driving. Unlike other manufacturers, our suspension software is developed completely in-house, using a predictive model to anticipate how the damping will need to be adjusted based on the road, speed, and other vehicle and driver inputs. The system constantly adapts by sensing the road and adjusting for driver behavior, automatically softening for more pronounced road inputs and firming for aggressive driving. We’ve also improved the leveling of the system while cruising, keeping the car low to optimize aerodynamic drag. As with all of Tesla’s in-house software, the adaptive suspension can receive over-the-air updates, allowing us to enable all Model S and Model X customers to have the most advanced suspension technology at all times.

Constant Refinement
To complement these changes, we’ve also re-engineered several other components of Model S and Model X in keeping with our philosophy of continuous improvement. These updates include new wheel bearings and a few new tire designs for certain variants to improve range, ride, and steering. While these changes may seem minor, together they have a meaningful impact when it comes to EV design.

In addition to our Long Range and Performance variants, we’re also re-introducing a lower entry price for Model S and Model X by bringing back our Standard Range option, now available for an even greater value with the new drivetrain and suspension updates. We also want to emphasize the critical impact each of our early Tesla owners has had on advancing our mission, so as a thank you, all existing Model S and Model X owners who wish to purchase a new Model S or Model X Performance car will get the Ludicrous Mode upgrade, a $20,000 value, at no additional charge.

These changes will go into production at our factory in Fremont, California this week, and can be ordered today at Tesla.com.
 
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I'm curious on what information you're basing this on? All those cars in the $61k range did have the BP01 Ludicrous Upgrade option code (See below). If these cars did not actually have the Ludicrous upgrade, then the option code data direct from Tesla was inaccurate, or Tesla was stripping Ludicrous mode from these cars before sale, but still advertised them as Ludicrous.


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I believe Tesla is adding ludicrous to all P90D's and stripping it from P85D's. Just yesterday I saw a P100DL for sale with AP2 and when I requested for photos it showed only a P90D with AP2. They may have replaced the battery prior with a 100 pack limited to 90. So they removed all software limitations and added ludicrous since it is no cost to them. Every single P90D for sale on Tesla's website has Ludicrous. Not sure why they are stripping it from P85D's, maybe the car can't handle the amount of power in ludicrous.

EDIT: Only few P85D's have ludicrous see post #31
 
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Not sure why they are stripping it from P85D's, maybe the car can't handle the amount of power in ludicrous

Very few P85Ds even have Ludicrous -- it was a $5000 optional add on installed after delivery when Ludicrous was release, and was only offered for a short period of time. It's no longer an available upgrade option.

No stock/factory P85Ds have Ludicrous.
 
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