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It arrived! First impressions

Discussion in 'Model S: Ordering, Production, Delivery' started by Gizmotoy, Nov 25, 2013.

  1. Gizmotoy

    Gizmotoy Active Member

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    #1 Gizmotoy, Nov 25, 2013
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    After about an 7 week wait, I was able to take delivery of a new P85 this weekend in Fremont. I spent the weekend driving it, putting on a few hundred miles, and I promised a couple people I'd share my thoughts, so figured I might as well make a new thread. Most of you guys know all the good stuff. I'll concentrate on the negative stuff, though keep in mind relative to all the (unstated) positives, they're pretty minor.

    Pros:
    • The car is amazing. Acceleration is excellent, ride is good.
    • Absolutely love the coils. Steering feel is not as nice as my Evo's, but it's not as bad as the S7 I drove. Transitions and off-camber turns felt great with this setup. Nothing like the air cars I drove at Santana Row.
    • I like the 19" wheels even more upon closer inspection. Not a huge fan of the turbine style, so fortunately I really like the stock wheels.
    • Textile seat covering is fantastic. So glad I went with that.
    • UHFS system is WAY better than it gets credit for. I don't know if they changed the components at some point or what, but the complaints about anemic bass in particular are vastly incorrect. I didn't want to push it too hard during break-in, but it hits harder than the 10" Rockford Fosgate that came with my Evo. Perhaps a little pricey at $2500, but I'm glad I ordered it. I don't see any immediate reason to upgrade further. There are caveats, however...

    Cons:
    • UHFS system is incredibly sensitive to source quality. Comparing my Evo RF system side-by-side with the Model S on the same 192kbps MP3, the Evo sounded better. At 320kbps it was closer, but still slight edge to the RF system. Then I tried FLAC and HD Radio... there, the UHFS system excelled. Much more clear, far greater detail. Not sure why that's the case.
    • Media browsing from USB is not great. No ALAC support, either, which is disappointing given the above. Not looking forward to re-encoding everything.
    • The seats, beyond the coverings, could use improvement. They're not terrible, but they're not great either. The backs are roughly acceptable, but the bottom has no bolstering whatsoever. I got the textile, and even in those I was sliding around in the corners. I'm happy I didn't take leather or it would have been worse. I know it's an American car, but just a little shaping would have been nice.
    • Factory delivery was not terribly impressive (This is to say nothing of the tour, which I have scheduled for tomorrow, have not yet taken, and am greatly looking forward to). They pull the car into one of those backyard tent things and talk to you there. I had kind of expected something similar to all the pictures I've seen where it's delivered in a room with nice lighting for pictures and testing. I don't know where those were, but this doesn't happen if you take factory delivery. Instead of Apple-like delivery, you get a backyard bar-b-q. I really wanted a shot with the big red Tesla wall in the background. Oh well.
    • The employee giving my orientation was not terribly knowledgeable. I did lots of research so I knew most of the stuff, but of the few questions I asked, I later found out the answers I received were wrong.
    • Behavior of the door locks is borked when charging. If the car's plugged in, it doesn't recognize me as I walk up, and pushing on the door handles does nothing. I have to manually unlock with the key. Only happens when charging, no idea why. Is this normal? I don't know.
    • Today I walked away and it didn't lock automatically. I looked out the window (I'm really far away, maybe 100 yards or so) and the angle was just right so I could tell the handles had not retracted. Checked the app and it was still unlocked. Fortunately was able to lock via the app. Had otherwise been locking flawlessly all weekend. Not sure if I can trust it, now.
    • Slacker is cool, but the quality leaves something to be desired. Nice in a pinch, but I'm not sure I can use it as a primary source.
    • As of 5.8, the better quality TuneIn channels are limited to WiFi. Annoying. That's one of the things I verified when I ordered in September.
    • I'm kind of tall (6'2"). I also like vertical steering wheels. If you're tall and want a vertical steering wheel, you can't see the dash. The seat doesn't lower enough. Unfortunately, I have to tilt the wheel back to see the dash. This has never been a problem before, and my last car didn't even have seat height adjustment! Very unusual.

    I'll probably have some more impressions in a few days. Have another road trip scheduled for this weekend. Thanks to the guys here (http://www.teslamotorsclub.com/showthread.php/24221-Scenic-drives-near-Fremont) I took a nice drive right after delivery, which was fun.

    Amusing occurance: They wanted me to accept delivery of the car from the touchscreen. Cool! ... except the website didn't work. It would go anywhere but teslamotors.com. He had to run me through the reboot process, which didn't work. Eventually it just started working again. Will have to keep an eye on it, but I'm blaming it on the website for now.

    I'm also still getting used to the size. I hurt it today, scratching the lower black part of the bumper a bit on something sticking up in front of a curb I didn't notice. :crying: Pretty minor, I doubt anyone would ever notice, but I'll know it's there. I wonder how much that piece is to replace? Looks expensive.


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    Some more pics here: Delivery Day - a set on Flickr
     
  2. lolachampcar

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    Big time congrats Giz!

    As I posted elsewhere, I think you got the absolute best configuration and I just LOVE the Red.
     
  3. carrerascott

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    There is a setting for this, you need to set it to lock automatically. Just in case you didn't already set that.

    Otherwise, congrats!!
     
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    For the tune -in just skip to the next song when it says it needs wi-fi(arrow button) and it will work on 3g. I have no wi-fi and use DI sometimes
     
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    Thanks! We just love it. Really happy with it so far.

    I do have it set to auto-lock, and it has been working. This one time (so far), it just didn't lock for whatever reason. Maybe I accidentally screwed up the setting, I'll check, but I think it just glitched out.

    Awesome tip! I'm going to try this on the way home. Thanks!
     
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    Mega-happy for you. It's been fun watching the process unfold along the way, and now that you have your car -- She's GORGEOUS. Great choices. Thanks for the first impressions. In between driving and grinning, keep the pictures coming.
     
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    Congrats! I'm jealous, but I love seeing pictures of the red. Can't wait to get mine (maybe three weeks?).
     
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    I do have some more pictures. Then again, I love photography, so I always have more pictures.

    Happy pictures!
    http://www.flickr.com/photos/jasonnemeth/sets/72157637992261904/ (and, yes, I temporarily ICE'd a Supercharger spot for some of them :wink:)

    Sad picture :crying:
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  9. Zythryn

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    Congratulations!

    Regarding the doors during recharge, that is not normal.
    I would have service check out the door handles, especially since you have had a few odd occurrences.
    If you have the time the doors didn't autolock, note that and ask service to check the logs at that time.
     
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    Once in a while, the on/off settings get out of sync with the hardware. This tends to happen on firmware update, but sometimes it "just happens".

    Usually just rebooting clears it.

    In one case it wouldn't come back after rebooting, or toggling it on and off a couple of times. I had to switch it off, then reboot. Then switch it on again, and reboot again. Finally it came back (this was auto-tilt mirrors in my case). I've also seen that happen on a friend's car with the walk-away locking.

    If I had to guess, the bit gets set in a controller somewhere else in the car, and doesn't get read back into the UI if it happens to get changed somehow. So you have to cycle it a few times and maybe reboot to get it back in sync.

    There have been reports of regen going to low when set high, etc., with the recent firmware update. I suspect this is the same issue. Probably many of the software switches are susceptible.
     
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    Ouch! How did it happen? The only good news is that you won't be anxiously awaiting the first ding: I was on high alert for eight months before somebody got one of my doors, but good, in a parking lot.
     
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    That was my conclusion. Oh well.

    Some little spikey thing in front of a curb. Pulled in 1/8" too far. Kind of smushed the plastic a bit, but all that discoloration rubbed off. Will probably try mashing the plastic back into shape, it feels very rubbery. At least it wasn't a painted surface... or carbon fiber.
     
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    That baby needs 21"s stat!
     
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    #15 Gizmotoy, Nov 25, 2013
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    Nah, definitely out on the 21"s. Way too low profile, with no real benefit beyond looks. That Evo next to it in the pictures is modified, wearing near R-comp rubber, sees lots of track duty, and still has higher profile tires than what go on the 21"s.

    Might go with 20"s, but even that would be only to get Michelin PSSs. In all likelihood I'll just put some nice summer tires on the stock wheels come spring. The PSS is available in 245/45 18", 20", and 21", so the 19" size we need is a gap in their coverage. Maybe if I'm lucky Michelin will fill that gap for 2014.
     
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    21" are sexy but to each their own. As for the textile seats, I have them as well and they are not comfortable at all, very firm and stiff. I got them because I did not like the look of the leather but I wish I had the softness.

    Nonetheless I love my car. I just wish I had gone with the a P85.
     
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    The textile seats are identical to the leather... the only difference is in the coverings. Though I'm told they've made some modifications during the run, so maybe they've improved the seats some.
     
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    I dunno about that. I drove a 85 with leather this weekend and the seats weren't much better but they were slightly more comfortable with the leather....sorter maybe, my seats are really stiff and they feel like i ma sitting on a metal folding chair LOL.
     
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    You can check with Tesla if you want. I had them verify with engineering for me since I didn't want to miss out on bolstering by choosing the textile seats instead of the performance leather. The response was that they're identical save the coverings, but they'd been through several iterations since the first cars shipped and to make sure I sat in one with the latest seats. The most recent change was in early August with the price increase, where the textile seats achieved feature parity with the leather seats (full adjustability, memory in tech package, heaters).
     
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    Yes, the 21s look really nice, but the performance hits from them in terms of range and ride (and the extra cost) make going with the 19s a no-brainer. I do wish that there were something in between; for what the 21s cost, a nice set of BBS in 20" might be the ticket.
     

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