JRP3
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This is turning into "Who's on first?" :biggrin: My posts all refer to efusco's posts about A123 and GM.
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They did choose the LG Chem for the Volt, but have maintained their relationship with A123 and may use them for other applications such as their EU version of the Volt.
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stopcrazypp
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That really is good enough for more than 310 miles (~500km). Should be interesting.
BASF to develop 350-mile e-car 'super battery' • Register Hardware
I've had my eye on Sion power for a while. If BASF can help them crack the life cycle issues, it could get very interesting.
Press release.
I've had my eye on Sion power for a while. If BASF can help them crack the life cycle issues, it could get very interesting.
Press release.
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stopcrazypp
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As someone pointed out, even without solving the cycle issues, if they make the battery big enough it shouldn't matter too much. There's still the issue of calendar life and cost.
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The author covered the cost of batteries and touched on the price of electricity to fill those batteries but failed to mention the price of gasoline. Either todays price of $3ish or last year’s $4 price. Surely it will increase beyond that as it historically has always slowly crept up and passed previous records.
Cogan says,“There’s a shroud of denial that regularly excludes the real cost of battery electric vehicles from discussion of their considerable benefits,” ”
So what about the Federal spending that shrouds the real cost of the gasoline used to propel today’s cars? The $1Trillion price of wars in lands we want the oil from (even WW1 was a war for oil) the uncalculatble cost of 10s of thousands of American and foreign lives and then there are the subsities we keep giving to the oil companies even while they record breaking profit every quarter. Why do we have to keep giving them money? Because they threaten to raise gasoline prices on us as opposed to only making a reasonable profit?
Estimates say the true cost of gasoline in the US should be about $15 dollars a gallon and that certainly jives with European prices a $10 a gallon.
Batteries are at least recyclable. Gasoline burns up once and fills our lungs with stuff.
The author covered the cost of batteries and touched on the price of electricity to fill those batteries but failed to mention the price of gasoline. Either todays price of $3ish or last year’s $4 price. Surely it will increase beyond that as it historically has always slowly crept up and passed previous records.
Cogan says,“There’s a shroud of denial that regularly excludes the real cost of battery electric vehicles from discussion of their considerable benefits,” ”
So what about the Federal spending that shrouds the real cost of the gasoline used to propel today’s cars? The $1Trillion price of wars in lands we want the oil from (even WW1 was a war for oil) the uncalculatble cost of 10s of thousands of American and foreign lives and then there are the subsities we keep giving to the oil companies even while they record breaking profit every quarter. Why do we have to keep giving them money? Because they threaten to raise gasoline prices on us as opposed to only making a reasonable profit?
Estimates say the true cost of gasoline in the US should be about $15 dollars a gallon and that certainly jives with European prices a $10 a gallon.
Batteries are at least recyclable. Gasoline burns up once and fills our lungs with stuff.
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