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It's the Batteries, Stupid!

Discussion in 'Battery Discussion' started by vfx, May 15, 2008.

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  1. Norbert

    Norbert TSLA will win

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    lithium-ion iron-sulfide : 0.5x price, 1.6x energy density, 1.5x power density.

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    Study: Battery electric vehicles unlikely to be cost competitive - Autoblog Green

     
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    Any study that uses outdated cell prices is worthless. As an individual I can buy automotive cells for less than $400 per kwh today.
     
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    Insulated battery boxes and preheating when plugged in should take care of much of the problem. Notice Tesla said "slight range reduction".
     
  6. Iz

    Iz EVs are here to stay

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    The Paul Scott comment hits the nail on the head. It is not always about costs.

     
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    ...and they will pay more for an electric car...just like they will pay more for an auto's styling, it's ability to go off-road -even if they never will, and they will pay more for a car that can do double and triple the fastest they will ever drive it. For many cars are reflections of the owners and how they see themselves.
     
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    VFX, I think you hit the nail on the head. "... cars are reflections of the owners ..." The issues Paul Scott mentions as well as yours are things that make up a person's persona. Even how much we are willing to spend is a part of who we are. We buy based on want, not need. Even the guy who can only afford a 1982 Cadillac De Ville bought it instead of a 1998 Escort because its a better fit for who he is.

    Marketing people know this. Trying to rationalize the appeal of an EV entirely based on economic and social-political factors misses the mark.
     
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    Did you guys read to the disclosure at the bottom of his story?


     
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    :redface: Most of the time in these cases, I don't bother to read the whole article because I know it is essentially BS from reading the title and the first paragraph.
     
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    The problem is if we don't speak up these clowns put out disinformation that people believe.

    We are seeing pushback to EVs from a more stealthy place these days.
     
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  14. Iz

    Iz EVs are here to stay

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    #299 Iz, Feb 12, 2010
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    Right ! And I would love this to happen this year
     

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