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SpiceWare
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The Slashdot Interview With Lithium-Ion Battery Inventor John B. Goodenough - Slashdot
Interesting interview. He thinks the new battery design can make it to market in 3 years.
Interesting interview. He thinks the new battery design can make it to market in 3 years.
I am impressed that this thread has been going on for 9 years. And am excited that battery technology continues to advance.
@SpiceWare I posted about the work being done in John Goodenough's lab in another thread, I think in Tesla Energy. Looks promising. He has a solid reputation.
@SpiceWare I posted about the work being done in John Goodenough's lab in another thread, I think in Tesla Energy. Looks promising. He has a solid reputation.
JRP3
Hyperactive Member
My take is this work is still in the early stages and may not yet be ready for prime time. NCA has a specific energy advantage at current voltages so even upping the voltages of NMC may not make it significantly better than NCA.
voyager
Active Member
Like the tread title, so therefore:
One of the latest to raise new money is Gridtential, a battery technology developer pitching a new take on a classic battery chemistry… the centuries old lead acid battery. Gridtential’s innovation, for which it’s filed several patents, is to use silicon plating instead of non-reactive lead plating in the battery.
New battery technologies are getting a charge from venture investors
One of the latest to raise new money is Gridtential, a battery technology developer pitching a new take on a classic battery chemistry… the centuries old lead acid battery. Gridtential’s innovation, for which it’s filed several patents, is to use silicon plating instead of non-reactive lead plating in the battery.
New battery technologies are getting a charge from venture investors
firstly, new battery design can make it to make in 3 years, is due to diversity of the market. there are solid state batteries on the market today with phenomenal properties, doesn't make them suitable for most applications.
2ndly, this is about glass electrolyte, so optimal for button or flat cells, not good for cylindrical.
3rdly, different technology paths were discussed in the review, covering a state of play, not just a single concept.
4thly, it appears to be holy grail - the solid electrolyte. If the temperature issue is solved, then the density improvement can be about a factor of 3X. Ie equivalent to going from the best NiMH 18650 to the best NCA 18650 cell.
a fairly typically solid state battery http://www.mouser.com/ds/2/389/efl700a39-973897.pdf
cost is about USD 8.00 per piece.
rough primer on use of solid state batteries.
Goodenough's latest solid state work is crazy even by solid state standards.
It uses a novel effect that seems only relevant for the initial 2-10nm of coating.
nm.
having said that, Goodenough's latest seems to limited only by anode, not by cathode!!!! kinda like a battery sans cathode. surreal.
cost is about USD 8.00 per piece.
rough primer on use of solid state batteries.
Goodenough's latest solid state work is crazy even by solid state standards.
It uses a novel effect that seems only relevant for the initial 2-10nm of coating.
nm.
having said that, Goodenough's latest seems to limited only by anode, not by cathode!!!! kinda like a battery sans cathode. surreal.
voyager
Active Member
Ionic’s innovations combine the advantages of the familiar alkaline batteries we buy at the drugstore (cheap, safe, and reliable) with those of the more expensive, fire-prone lithium batteries in our computers and phones (powerful, rechargeable, and more earth-friendly).
This Battery Breakthrough Could Change Everything | Backchannel
This Battery Breakthrough Could Change Everything | Backchannel
Wow no new post in a long time. So here we go.
This time it is from MIT and it is for stationary storage and they they use the words, 'holy grail':
This time it is from MIT and it is for stationary storage and they they use the words, 'holy grail':
Forgive my ignorance, first post and new to this, but didn't Tesla already do this at a much larger scale in Australia to help out with brownouts....and somewhere else? How old was this video?
I think you are confusing two different products. The MIT video talks about a new type of battery using entirely new technology and not LiOn, that will be much cheaper and can be produced at mass scale. I am fairly certain this is not for automotive usage.
This video is just a few weeks old.
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