Sorry David, I'm not in disagreement at all with you... I was responding to Lloyd's questions regarding J1772 and CHAdeMO. You do raise some very interesting questions about 'water proofing' of charging equipment... I've spent many years sailing and have only ever found IP44 'splash proof' equipment at marinas. I wonder if this works because marina's don't have fixed cables with trailing ends, just sockets. I find it interesting that the US is deploying EVSE systems with cables attached while Europe is deploying EVSE sockets... my gut feeling is that sockets are a lot more robust and vandal proof.