Very interesting... 84.7 kWh usable.
Of course, 400 kg less than a Model X for a Model 3 sized vehicle isn't that big of a deal. Model X is about 2,500 kg with a 100 kWh pack, which is actually 102.4 kWh with 98.4 kWh usable. That puts the I-Pace at 2,100 kg, or 330 kg more than the Model 3 LR which has a 80.5 kWh pack, 75 kWh usable. Given that the i-Pace has almost the exact same exterior dimensions as the Model 3, that means the I-Pace is pretty heavy... and with a bigger frontal area (taller roof) and a much higher drag coefficient of 0.29 (claimed by Jaguar), the efficiency will be
Given that, with LG NMC 111 cells, GM has restricted charging c-rates to less than 1C, what will Jaguar do with their LG cells? Did they engineer sufficient battery cooling to charge higher than 1C? Hopefully, as GM's charge rate is really low.
Still, with first year's production slated at 13,000 units, not really seeing much of a global impact from the i-Pace overall. But it will be big for Jaguar and Tata. This puts Tata in a very good position to scale up.
No idea about the technicalities. What I know is that my 85 (400V) charges at max 120 kW (well I think the max I've ever seen on my car is 119 kW), and that 350V 75's charge at 100kW or so max. Glad to know the Superchargers could give even more kW, but currently the Tesla cars won't accept it. So I'm just assuming that if Jaguar says their cars will accept 150 kW and CCS charging stations will indeed deliver 150kW, that would be good news.
i had the impression the ipace is bigger then model 3?
This was leaked when the epa specs came out, tesla has not announced this as they anti-sell the 3’sNo idea about the technicalities. What I know is that my 85 (400V) charges at max 120 kW (well I think the max I've ever seen on my car is 119 kW), and that 350V 75's charge at 100kW or so max. Glad to know the Superchargers could give even more kW, but currently the Tesla cars won't accept it. So I'm just assuming that if Jaguar says their cars will accept 150 kW and CCS charging stations will indeed deliver 150kW, that would be good news.
Really? Wow, I never saw that elsewhere. Please explain as that would really be great info.
More news cropping up:
- Jaguar to look at a cheaper base model with less performance and smaller pack once the launch cars are sold.
- 150kW CCS Charging for the car, and plans in place to upgrade the UK CCS charging network.
- The car weighs 400kg less than a Model X!!
- You can make the car growl to warn pedestrians (Good to see a dash of humor )
Jaguar likely to offer cheaper fleet version of I-Pace electric car
I can see this being a serious problem here in the UK for Tesla in the period between IPace launch and the RHD Model 3 becoming available. I wonder what they can do to the S/X line-up in the intervening period?
Your AP2 videos are just great but they obviously won’t please those who wake up every morning angry about the lack of a rain sensor in their car. Different perspective.
Anyway, back on topic: that 150kW news is simply great! I cannot understand lukewarm reactions to it. Even if it couldn’t be applicable to me (and it isn’t as I’m not trading my Tesla in any time soon) it still makes me happy for the EV revolution as a whole. Again, some only think of their own case. Different perspective, and to each his own.
I wonder if 60k GBP, or 80k USD would be the price of the future Tesla Model Y?
What is your evidence that GM is using LG NMC 111 cells (in the Bolt EV, I assume)? I’ve never seen any specific chemistry or cell model identified by GM or LG but GM does call their Bolt cells “Nickel-rich” which would seem to imply a higher ratio of Nickel than a 111 chemistry.Given that, with LG NMC 111 cells, GM has restricted charging c-rates to less than 1C,
The peak for an Ioniq Electric is (at least) 70 kW, according to people in Norway that have plugged them into one of the 100 kW CCS stations there.A Hyundai Ioniq can plug into a 100 kW CCS and it can tolerate 65 kW peak.
No way Model Y is going to be anywhere near that expensive, at least not in a base config. Maybe fully optioned out with a max-range battery pack, performance package, dual motor 4wd+air suspension, autopilot, fsd, etc, etc.
The new generation of CCS is built around a 350 amp plug. At 360 volts, that's 125 kW.
Well, Model 3's initial base config is $55k. The idea that initial Model Y production might be in the ~$60k region, especially if launched in 2018 like the I-Pace, does not sound implausible. Of course more years passing will lessen the price, as will ramp-up.
$60k for I-Pace would be very good starting price, though. I wouldn't be surprised if it costs more.
The newest generation of CCS charges with up to 350 kW. This is the Porsche version:
Now all we need is a car capable of charging with 350kW...
If the non-Tesla manufacturers are able to get a reasonable highspeed CCS network running, how will they stop slower charging cars like the Bolt/Ampera from clogging up spots. Would they have complex billing that tries to deal with time and energy?