Jim Keller interview (February 2021)

[shrineofchance]

Check the video description for time codes.

 

[mikes_fsd]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G4hL5Om4IJ4&t=4363s

So, it looks like MobilEye is actually further behind than what I thought. From the video at the timestamp quoted above... they "do not treat NN's as first class citizens".
CV = computer vision
In context it is computer vision on images not NN based.

 

[diplomat33]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G4hL5Om4IJ4&t=4363s

So, it looks like MobilEye is actually further behind than what I thought. From the video at the timestamp quoted above... they "do not treat NN's as first class citizens".
CV = computer vision
In context it is computer vision on images not NN based.

Jim Keller does not work for Mobileye. He does not know the latest that they have. He is simply a Tesla fan offering speculation. And like every Tesla fan, he thinks everybody is far behind Tesla. He is not a reliable source for the state of Mobileye. And he is objectively wrong since Mobileye does have very advanced deep neural networks in their FSD.

Why are you taking your cues from someone who has no clue what Mobileye is doing? Why don't you watch videos from people who actually know what Mobileye is doing like Ammon who is actually in charge of Mobileye's FSD?

 

[diplomat33]

Not sure why I got 3 "disagrees" for my post. Jim Keller is a microprocessor engineer best known for his work at AMD and Apple. He was the lead architect of the AMD K8 microarchitecture and was involved in designing the Athlon and Apple A4/A5 processors. He's a super smart "hardware guy" absolutely. But he does not know about the neural networks that Mobileye has. He does not work for Mobileye. And what he says about Mobileye is factually false. Mobileye is using deep neural networks. They are not relying on basic CV to do FSD. You can find this information in any Mobileye presentation. So what I wrote in that respect is correct.

 

[mikes_fsd]

Jim Keller is a microprocessor engineer

Microprocessor engineers do not work in vacuum. (he is way more than a microprocessor engineer, he is also a microprocessor architect)
They have to provide a solution to a problem.
He is the designer of Autopilot FSD computer that is running on all FSD enabled/purchased vehicles.

If you listen to the entire interview, you can clearly tell he knows/understands what he was designing the chip for.

 

[diplomat33]

Microprocessor engineers do not work in vacuum. (he is way more than a microprocessor engineer, he is also a microprocessor architect)
They have to provide a solution to a problem.
He is the designer of Autopilot FSD computer that is running on all FSD enabled/purchased vehicles.

If you listen to the entire interview, you can clearly tell he knows/understands what he was designing the chip for.

Yes, he is very knowledgeable about Tesla's chip and Tesla's AP. I never said he wasn't. But that has nothing to do with Mobileye. What he and Lex were saying about Mobileye is completely false.

My problem is with your statement that Mobileye is far behind because they are still using basic CV instead of NN. You got that idea from the interview. It is incorrect.