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Joe McCarthy or J. Edgar Hoover - who is more to blame for America's psychology?

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SSedan said:
The DNC, academics, and most of the media hate America and control much of what the rest of the world sees of us.
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If the DNC could actually control anything, the Democrats would still be in the majority and White House, rather than flailing about aimlessly. It's laughable that such an incompetent and corrupt organization would be capable of influencing world opinion.

The media doesn't hate America. They simply broadcast/webcast/publish whatever draws the most viewers/readers and brings in the advertising dollars. Nothing more than capitalism at work. People watch bad news more than good news. It's human nature deeply rooted in the evolutionary need to survive. Those who look out for threats don't get killed.
 
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deonb said:
It was either that, or assuming he said that just because one group of people have different ideas on how a country should be run, that they "hate the country". Which would be like saying that people who won't let their kids eat a gallon of ice cream each night, "hate their kids".

Now I know he wouldn't be so dumb as to think THAT...
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You keep crafting them strawmen and maybe one day you'll be right. Until then...
 
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I do know who McCarthy was and the left are the ones going down that path while claiming it is the right doing so.

McCarthyism is alive and thriving.

After BLM chants about wanting dead cops and their followers execute a handful Obama is praised for inviting them to the White House, but they pretend Trump is a racist when one horrible person kills one other person with a car, and Trump denounces violence on BOTH sides.

This isn't rational conversation, this is McCarthyism, it is the left trying to make boogeymen out of everyone who disagrees.

Denouncing anyone who wants a controlled boarder is against the existence of this country, one of the defining features of a country is controlled boarders.

Playing the race card over EVERYTHING is the new accusation of communist. Half this country still believes "hands up don't shoot" is the truth because the media/left wants them to.
 
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deonb said:
What strawman? SSedan is the one saying the DNC hates America. I challenged him to back that up. Stop speaking for him - unless this is just you posting on a second account...
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And you keep making up things and attributing them to him, yet you dig yourself deeper into the strawman hole with each post. Maybe you should stop while you're behind.
 
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The most enjoyable societies have elements of socialism, but are not socialist.
The US, UK, Australia, Sweden, Japan, South Korea, and dozens of other countries are all examples of this.
They all have freedom, capitalism, private ownership, competition.
They also have socialist things like public parks, roads, schools, prisons, welfare, pensions etc.

Anyone looking for vast differences in levels of socialism between the US and Australia is going to be disappointed.
They are practically identical, clustered right in the middle of the spectrum with all the other pleasant, well-organised countries.

Socialism in normal and healthy at the right dose. Where it gets ugly is when you artificially force it to apply to all aspects of a country.
Fortunately, that system completely ruins all the incentives that make an economy great, so those countries end up going broke and rejoining the herd (I'm looking at you Russia).
 
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ShockOnT said:
The most enjoyable societies have elements of socialism, but are not socialist.
The US, UK, Australia, Sweden, Japan, South Korea, and dozens of other countries are all examples of this.
They all have freedom, capitalism, private ownership, competition.
They also have socialist things like public parks, roads, schools, prisons, welfare, pensions etc.

Anyone looking for vast differences in levels of socialism between the US and Australia is going to be disappointed.
They are practically identical, clustered right in the middle of the spectrum with all the other pleasant, well-organised countries.

Socialism in normal and healthy at the right dose. Where it gets ugly is when you artificially force it to apply to all aspects of a country.
Fortunately, that system completely ruins all the incentives that make an economy great, so those countries end up going broke and rejoining the herd (I'm looking at you Russia).
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Socialism, a system that works so well that throughout history people have chosen to risk their lives to escape it's grip
 
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Like I said DNC and media do not believe the USA entitled to boarders which is a defining characteristic of a country. How can they not hate the country? Then again maybe it is all just about importing voters and the McCarthyist chant of racism.

Those who call socialists socialist are pointing to a disagreement about how to fundamentally run the government, those screaming racist over everything and anything are engaging in McCarthy's defining behavior.
 
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SSedan said:
Like I said DNC and media do not believe the USA entitled to boarders which is a defining characteristic of a country. How can they not hate the country? Then again maybe it is all just about importing voters and the McCarthyist chant of racism.
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Again, name one case where the DNC or even the Media said or implied in any way shape or form, that the USA is not entitled to [sic] boarders.
 
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SSedan said:
Like I said DNC and media do not believe the USA entitled to boarders which is a defining characteristic of a country. How can they not hate the country? Then again maybe it is all just about importing voters and the McCarthyist chant of racism.

Those who call socialists socialist are pointing to a disagreement about how to fundamentally run the government, those screaming racist over everything and anything are engaging in McCarthy's defining behavior.
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I am trying to figure out who exactly are the boarders? Are these the illegal immigrants, or those who are under DACA and are being asked to leave?
 
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ShockOnT said:
Source?
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Bright Minds and Dark Attitudes
Lower Cognitive Ability Predicts Greater Prejudice Through Right-Wing Ideology and Low Intergroup Contact
SAGE Journals: Your gateway to world-class journal research

Differences in negativity bias underlie variations in political ideology
Differences in negativity bias underlie variations in political ideology | Behavioral and Brain Sciences | Cambridge Core

Political Orientations Are Correlated with Brain Structure in Young Adults
http://www.cell.com/current-biology/fulltext/S0960-9822(11)00289-2


More to come...
 
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(IQ highest at extreme left wing, lowest at extreme right wing)

Childhood intelligence predicts voter turnout, voting preferences, and political involvement in adulthood: The 1970 British Cohort Study
Childhood intelligence predicts voter turnout, voting preferences, and political involvement in adulthood: The 1970 British Cohort Study - ScienceDirect
( Green and Lib Dem voters are cleverest, says research )

And more still (like religious people have lower average IQ than atheists & conservatives are more religious than progressives)...
 
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Nuclear Fusion said:
(IQ highest at extreme left wing, lowest at extreme right wing)

Childhood intelligence predicts voter turnout, voting preferences, and political involvement in adulthood: The 1970 British Cohort Study
Childhood intelligence predicts voter turnout, voting preferences, and political involvement in adulthood: The 1970 British Cohort Study - ScienceDirect
( Green and Lib Dem voters are cleverest, says research )

And more still (like religious people have lower average IQ than atheists & conservatives are more religious than progressives)...
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Can you explain what happened to you then? A statistical fly in the liberal ointment? J/K.;) Have a wonderful weekend. Stay away from Berkeley though, there will free speech there. It has caused severe stomach ailments, Tourette Syndrome, and violent psychosis in liberals. And an odd predilection for wearing black full coverage clothing on hot days. Crazy symptoms, that's for sure.

PS - A university study (Whatzamatter U, 1965) showed that larger text doesn't make you look smarter.
 
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What I do find amusing is that even by the most liberal media standards, is how the various DNC spokesholes are appearing to be losing IQ points by the day.

You should have heard ultra-liberal, ultra-pacifist Rob Reiner this week implying we need to declare war on Russia. WTF??? Why not just set up concentration and death camps first like the last idiot who sneak attacked Russia did. It makes just as much sense.

So I'm damn glad Billary did NOT get her hands on the atomic football. We'd be in a full global nuclear exchange this morning. You cannot trust American Left to have rational foreign policies. They strike out far more than they improve things.
 
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