Uber drivers who want to return home for a meal break (and a nap) after 5-6 hours & be back on the road with decent range in 3-4 hours for the second half of their day, without necessarily relying on public DC rapid chargers.
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Jolt EV charging network
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Chuq
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25 kW DC chargers are significantly cheaper to install than a 50 kW and in the case of an old Leaf like mine, they won't charge much faster than 30-35 kW anyway. Old Leafs are also limited to AC charging at 3.6 kW so the different between that and 22 kW is more obvious. They are ideal to install in towns which are halfway between 50+ kW chargers, for owners of the older/cheaper EVs with limited ranges. Owners of longer range cars can skip them, but the units are still very handy for others (also as an emergency backup site for longer range EV owners who over-estimate their ability to reach the next charger)
Lots of them in the city though? Beat me. Basically like an AC charger except the cable is included and capable of going up to 22 kW for all vehicles.
bay74
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Ok thanks all. So we have remote outback roadhouses where a proper DC fast charger would be prohibitively expensive, Uber drivers on a break, and old Leafs. Good thing we have this Jolt network coming then (well, not at outback roadhouses by the sounds of it. And not at the homes of Uber drivers).
Nah I should be appreciative of anything which might help EVs. Who knows, sure there are plenty of use cases that I can't think of.
Nah I should be appreciative of anything which might help EVs. Who knows, sure there are plenty of use cases that I can't think of.
I think if placed in the correct spots it's very useful for those in apartments or garage less terraces.
Still not a fan of the single unit installs in Adelaide (or Gold Coast council similar 50/75kW rollout).
But the Sydney rollout seems really strange. Why limit yourself to 25kW when you are literally at a substation.
Greatest issue I see in Sydney is few of the green boxes are actually on the curb/kerb. Many are setback with a footbath or green space for protection.
Still not a fan of the single unit installs in Adelaide (or Gold Coast council similar 50/75kW rollout).
But the Sydney rollout seems really strange. Why limit yourself to 25kW when you are literally at a substation.
Greatest issue I see in Sydney is few of the green boxes are actually on the curb/kerb. Many are setback with a footbath or green space for protection.
Well.. sounds like Jolts got big plans for Australia:
www.theage.com.au
I guess we'll see what other cities they're targetting
5000 free fast electric car chargers to be built around Australia
The world’s largest investment manager has bought into the Australia electric car charging network, signalling confidence that EVs are set to take off.
I guess we'll see what other cities they're targetting
First NSW charger now live in Mona Vale.
At a guess it's actually CCS2
At a guess it's actually CCS2
Relevant Northern Beaches Council reports
Thanks. I just installed the app and set it up. It is a “skin” of the Evie app and looks to use evconnect.com as the backend (ie same as Evie) BUT your user setup information seemingly isn’t shared between Evie and Jolt.
Wonder how they will go with policing it being ICEd. That’s a pretty busy and hectic spot.
EvConnect seem to sell it as a SAAS app.
Fair enough too - it's a good app.
I suspect Chargefox is also built on the same backend, albeit maybe locally hosted and more customised.
They are using the No Parking - EVs while charging excepted.
This means any ICErs can easily get hit with a No Parking fine - $116
Thanks. After I posted I had a chance to look at the DA information you linked on the council website and saw the intended signage; hopefully it has the desired effect. That station opening hasn’t been announced in the weekly council email newsletter yet has it, maybe next week? Soul Surf (about 50m away) still has one of my retro surfboards for sale; next time I call in to see them I’ll try parking/charging there.
FWIW I do like the other two charging bay locations shown in that DA - the ones in the carpark the other side of the roundabout, near the library and that good hole-in-the-wall coffee shop on Park St.
Again thanks for the pickup of this station opening; hopefully the first of many in the area.
7News video.
Strathfield, Randwick, Hornsby up next
Interesting how the new box just sits over the old green box.
Strathfield, Randwick, Hornsby up next
Interesting how the new box just sits over the old green box.
Also not free to use..
It's the same pricing as Adelaide.
First 7kWh free (so about 15min)
Then $0.42/kWh.
Given these are at a substation though, you wonder why they don't have faster charging speeds.
It's the same pricing as Adelaide.
First 7kWh free (so about 15min)
Then $0.42/kWh.
Given these are at a substation though, you wonder why they don't have faster charging speeds.
The Evie app has listed chargers with the wrong charger type (CCS where it should be CCS2, Type 1 when it should be Type 2) a few times before as well, I've managed to get a few fixed through bug reports. Seems to be something about that EVConnect app that makes it an easy mistake to make for operators.
The Evie app now lists some Type 2 chargers as "Mannakes" (sic) but at least it has the plug diagram right now...
Could it be that they want to give 15 minutes and ~50km of free parking/charging (ie not too much, not too little) and it just happens that the 25kW rate achieves that, rather than the charging speed being driven from what is available in the big green transformer box.
The numbers probably wouldn’t add up for the business if they gave you 200km worth of driving in that 15 minutes (nobody would ever get to the point of paying for the kW after the free stuff). As it is they are giving you about $2 worth of electricity and a parking spot for 15 minutes - want more than that you pay. For people living in a unit or otherwise doing a quick shop and wanting to get up to about 100km worth of range for less cost than a home charge (assuming they don’t have solar panels) - ie half free, half at 42c - it will be a good solution.
What _would_ be cool though - and I have no idea whether the charger hardware or the backend communications allow for this - would be in the app when you start the charging session to be able to say “hit me with 100kW charging, I‘m happy to pay for all of it” then get billed for everything at 42c but at a much faster charge rate.
BTW this is how the (pricing) details for that charger in Mona Vale shops look in the app:
And more under construction sites shown on their website - all are green boxes - Kensington, Maroubra and Homebush West/Strathfield
jolt.com.au
JOLT - Find an Electric Vehicle Charger
Find an Electric Vehicle charger near you. Download the JOLT app today and check the map to find your closest EV charging station.
jolt.com.au
Found a DA on the Randwick site.
Submitted in Jan 2021 and still not approved.
Huge amount of detail in the documents.
Submitted in Jan 2021 and still not approved.
Huge amount of detail in the documents.
Went to Mona Vale for a charge today and disappointed to find it ICEd by a red (non EV) Jaguar. Signage is clear but the Council needs to blitz it with cautions or parking fines for a week or two until people get the message.
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