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Just a thought about EV Pollution and 48,891,000,000 kWh

Discussion in 'Energy, Environment, and Policy' started by AC1K, Aug 13, 2013.

  1. AC1K

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    #1 AC1K, Aug 13, 2013
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    In 2005 this article was released on the energy usage of refineries (just refineries, not gas stations, offices, anything leading up or post gasoline production)
    48,891,000,000 kWh of energy was used by ONLY the refineries
    http://www.nationmaster.com/graph/ene_ele_con_by_pet_ref-energy-electricity-consumption-petroleum-refineries

    This could effectively charge

    575,188,235 85kW Tesla's from dead (United states is estimated to have 240M cars on the road)

    Or

    it could run 5,751,882 85kWh Model S's 26500 miles per year (Average yearly range for most people is 15,000 miles)

    Or

    it could run 20,000 Model S's 7,621,244 miles (to my knowledge no car has over 5 million miles on it)
    you could drive 20,000 Model S's around the earth ~305 times.

    This is only ONE year of petroleum refinement and it was from 2005, im pretty sure in 2013 we are using even more power.
    what are your thoughts? still think the coal power plant argument holds up?
     
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    Title fixed as requested.
     
  3. AMPd

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    That's a lot of model S's!

    now when someone brings up the old "your pollution is just moved elsewhere" we can inform them that not only was there a lot of electricity used to refine their gasoline, pushing pollution elsewhere but also now they are polluting again by burning the gasoline!
     
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    One important note about stats involving "Energy use" by refineries is that this is usually "energy" not "electricity". 1 kWh of Natural Gas does not equate to 1 kWh of electricty.
     
  5. AC1K

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    on the page it specifically says "Electricity consumption"

    otherwise the number would be MUCH higher as some are running on diesel generators because they are in the middle of no where,
     
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    Another way, it's enough juice to power 10 million Model S's for a year at 15,000 miles. That's a lot of juice.
     
  7. Iz

    Iz EVs are here to stay

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    Thanks for posting. The numbers must be staggering when one considers the amount of kWh used from the ground to fuel tank process.
     

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