JeffK
Well-Known Member
I have a really bad OCD problem and I'm pretty opinionated (logically based opinions for the most part).
I've loved and dreamed about electric cars since I was little. The thought that I'll finally be able to afford one is terribly exciting. The very idea that Tesla is actually going to ramp up production to 500,000 cars in 2018 or even if it takes until 2019, whatever. It means that during my lifetime I'll see safe, awesome, electric cars on the road (besides all the Model Ss I see now everyday).
...But seriously the OCD thing is a problem, I should get help.
Need a Model 3 reservation holders' support group.
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I have a really bad OCD problem and I'm pretty opinionated (logically based opinions for the most part).
I've loved and dreamed about electric cars since I was little. The thought that I'll finally be able to afford one is terribly exciting. The very idea that Tesla is actually going to ramp up production to 500,000 cars in 2018 or even if it takes until 2019, whatever. It means that during my lifetime I'll see safe, awesome, electric cars on the road (besides all the Model Ss I see now everyday).
...But seriously the OCD thing is a problem, I should get help.
I understand and share your enthusiasm. I on the other hand have a laziness problem...I contemplate responding to far more posts than I actually do.
Garlan Garner
Banned
We all should get a support group.I have a really bad OCD problem and I'm pretty opinionated (logically based opinions for the most part).
I've loved and dreamed about electric cars since I was little. The thought that I'll finally be able to afford one is terribly exciting. The very idea that Tesla is actually going to ramp up production to 500,000 cars in 2018 or even if it takes until 2019, whatever. It means that during my lifetime I'll see safe, awesome, electric cars on the road (besides all the Model Ss I see now everyday).
...But seriously the OCD thing is a problem, I should get help.
I suppose the group is this forum.
Ok. Then tell me what I'm not "getting"?
I refuted your assertion:
with examples of meaningful production hardware changes since 2013 that would effect the production-line when the changes is done (and that is what we are talking about?)
And I refuted you assertion that I was talking about software changes, something I know I did not. I even pointed to the Elon quote JeffK gave and that I was referring to about the same changes.
Whatever replies like this I'm now responding to does not furthering the debate, so unless I get some meaningful replies it's EOD from me.
That is exactly right, as obvious as it may sound. Any delays are the responsibility of Tesla as a whole. To say it's the fault of department X or Y based off a news article is a simplistic understanding of "facts" that actually provide very little insight.
Garlan Garner
Banned
That's why I'm asking the question in the forum. Maybe the replies would provide some more intricate insight.
Think of how happy everyone would be with the number of deliveries if Tesla never said the following.
"Additionally, given the demand for Model 3, we have decided to advance our 500,000 total unit build plan (combined for Model S, Model X, and Model 3) to 2018, two years earlier than previously planned. Increasing production five fold over the next two years will be challenging and will likely require some additional capital, but this is our goal and we will be working hard to achieve it."
"Additionally, given the demand for Model 3, we have decided to advance our 500,000 total unit build plan (combined for Model S, Model X, and Model 3) to 2018, two years earlier than previously planned. Increasing production five fold over the next two years will be challenging and will likely require some additional capital, but this is our goal and we will be working hard to achieve it."
ℬête Noire
Active Member
I'm not convinced of that. It would have leaked anyway what they were trying to do and there would still have been lots of people with $1K down. *shrug*
Most people/analysts, etc. thought the goal of 500,000 vehicles in 2000 was impossible. So Tesla is six months late on being two years early to meet its original impossible goal.
By making a very aggressive target even more aggressive and putting in place a plan to try to achieve it, they will end up getting cars in people's hands much, much faster -- in some cases a year or two faster -- than if they had stuck with their original target.
By making a very aggressive target even more aggressive and putting in place a plan to try to achieve it, they will end up getting cars in people's hands much, much faster -- in some cases a year or two faster -- than if they had stuck with their original target.
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Waiting4M3
Active Member
My take away is that back in spring of 2016 Tesla thought they had to bring the production forward to make the potential customers happy with delivery timeline. Now that Tesla saw that the long wait still didn't deter new reservations from coming in during Q4 '17, they decided that they can (and should) take a more financially conservative ramp approach, and also can sell more LR vs SR and get higher margin.
tomas
Out of warranty...
I’d guess combination of 2 things: high take rate and new demand for LR, and extended timeline for getting to peak production volumes. We know the early bottlenecks were in battery production. Why make that more complex and add another battery variant if the LR reservation picture is healthy?
Boy oh boy when you read the early postings in this thread and the promises and predictions from tesla that were made back then.....wow, I guess things really never go as planned.
If they hit 5000/wk by summer, that's a 350k/yr annualized rate (including S/X). Then it would be easy to imagine hitting the 500k rate by the end of the year.
We'll see.
We'll see.
ℬête Noire
Active Member
That's how I'd always read it, that the target was always 10K/week (so 500K when including 2 weeks of shutdown/year) of all vehicles. That's what their paint booth is nominally sized for, right?
