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Just in case you didnt pay attention or were not even told....

Discussion in 'Model S: Ordering, Production, Delivery' started by Altes, Nov 22, 2016.

  1. Zaphod

    Zaphod Galaxy President (former)

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    To get AP 1.0 functionality with the new system shouldn't required any regulatory approval. That only applies to greater levels of autonomy and the self-driving capability.
     
  2. jelloslug

    jelloslug Active Member

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    I knew that it would not be enabled until December or so.
     
  3. ev-now

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    Except it's using a completely different hardware and software stack, how could prior approval carry forward in that situation?
     
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  4. Altes

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    I ordered before the ap2.0 and I test drove with all these cool AP features and parking and spent time looking through menus on screen. Gosh. It even had auto headlights!!!!

    Fast forward.....delivery day. No AP, not even auto headlights.....many other features looked at on test drive are future upgrades.... hope it improves but right now It feels like classic bait and switch......or maybe bait and wait
     
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  5. brkaus

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    Ultimately I fully believe you will be better off. Even with a few weeks of missing features. It will be like Christmas every time a new firmware release arrives!

    But lack of auto headlights really surprised me. Have you pressed your DS for a list of missing features? We really need a thread there with missing items and expected dates.

    (Btw, I don't believe full self driving will be in 2017).
     
  6. timdorr

    timdorr Model S P90D w/AP2.0

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    My P90D was delivered yesterday with regular CC enabled. So, they at least have that. But here's the list of stuff not working yet:
    • Autopilot
    • Autopark/Summon
    • Automatic Parking
    • Auto High Beams
    • Auto Wipers
    • Auto Lights
    • Auto Day/Night Mode
    • TACC
    It looks like Tesla just did a search for the word "auto" and hit delete :p
     
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  7. trils0n

    trils0n 2013 P85

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    Weird no auto wipers or auto lights, or auto day/night mode. Those use a light sensor that all Tesla's, even pre-autopilot, ones have.
     
  8. Canuck

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    #28 Canuck, Nov 23, 2016
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    Nope, Tesla would have spent your money while you sat on those seats. They have far too much debt to be sitting on money.
     
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  9. Max*

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    Man o man, that's a long list...
     
  10. Max*

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    That's due to the new camera/housing on the windshield. It has the rain sensor, so no auto wipers. I'm not sure about the rest of it, or how the legacy Tesla's bypassed the rain sensor.
     
  11. timdorr

    timdorr Model S P90D w/AP2.0

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    I know, it's kind of funny, my brand new Model S is less capable in than my 2012 Model S in so many ways. But I know I won't be waiting long (which is good because I'm driving up the east coast at the end of next month...)
     
  12. Canuck

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    I think people do need to calm down just a little bit. Tesla did say December for EAP and last time I checked it's November. That's "bait and switch"?

    Before Tesla emerged, it was thought to be nearly impossible to create a new American car company. To think one would be created that wouldn't make mistakes is beyond belief. Tesla is going to make mistakes -- that's just fact. But the fact they are still around, and haven't made any huge mistakes, is what should really surprise us, as well as how long that can continue.
     
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  13. brkaus

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    Makes sense. The ambient light detection is likely in the mirror assembly as well.
     
  14. MorrisonHiker

    MorrisonHiker S 100D 2019.16.2

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    Actually, I think they said there would be no autopilot functionality until December. In December, they plan on having functionality similar to the original Autopilot. EAP will come later.
     
  15. Canuck

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    #35 Canuck, Nov 23, 2016
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    There is only EAP and FSD now available to be ordered and Tesla's ordering page says: "Tesla's Enhanced Autopilot software is expected to complete validation and be rolled out to your car via an over-the-air update in December 2016, subject to regulatory approval."

    I predict when it's enabled you're going to see it do a lot more than AP1.0, hence the need for regulatory approval and the recently released videos by Tesla of the impressive capabilities of AP2.0.
     
  16. MorrisonHiker

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    #36 MorrisonHiker, Nov 23, 2016
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    I thought I read or heard something different back in October but can't find any screenshots. I know there was some discussion that there would be no autopilot initially. Then I thought the plan was that they would enable autopilot functionality similar to that of AP 1.0 cars and EAP functionality would come later.

    Anyhow, I'm glad to hear EAP will hopefully be rolled out in December. I have a 1000 mile round-trip road trip planned and wasn't looking forward to the complete lack of cruise control. I heard cruise control was enabled via a firmware update this week. That would be great if they have all of EAP enabled later next month!
     
  17. Shumdit

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    All I will say is, don't be mad when someone complains and a "I told you so" reply is posted. It's happened before and will happen again. Love my Tesla but you can be a huge fan and also not be blind to the realities.
     
  18. theslimshadyist

    theslimshadyist NashVegas!

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    This is just sad. I know that Elon said AP2 wouldn't be working yet but I don't recall a statement saying these other features would be disabled as well. :(
     
  19. GoTslaGo

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    We bought our Tesla when AP 1.0 just came on line (7.0). My wife tried it day 1, then refused to use it, it freaked her out. We proceeded to drive the Tesla as we would drive a regular car, and really, really enjoyed it.

    Finally when we felt comfortable with the car, and knew most of the ins and outs we took baby steps into AP and then became rapid adopters. In retrospect those months that we held off on using AP 1.0 were also the times you are experiencing now (limited functionality). By the time we were using AP 1.0 (7.1) it was fully functioning and we could appreciate many of the features better because we had time to appreciate the car itself.

    IMHO, use this time before AP 2.0 is fully up to really get to know and enjoy your car. Have fun!
     
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  20. Altes

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    Glad you are optimistic..... I would be shocked if the release was done before Q2-2017
     
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