Were you on the phone at those times ?
Anytime I'm driving actually on the phone I'm using it wirelessly with voice controls, however as I have clarified a few times when sitting and when the Tesla is reading the wrong messages to me, I will look down and sometimes have to tap the screen to see which person actually sent message so I can use voice commands to call the right person back. I've stated this before in other responses, two of the strikes were 100% on me, one of the other three gave a strike even though I was shaking the wheel (but not enough to disengage) and looking forward, and 2 of the 5 gave absolutely no time to 'pay attention' or manually disengage before forced disengagement occurred. It is engagement for a mix between looking at the Tesla screen and looking down at the center console area while stopped and The two legit ones were when it saw the phone. My hand, I was pressing the volume button to cause the incoming call to stop ringing one time without looking at the phone and the other time I was holding the power button down to force reboot it, both times not looking at the phone but it was in my hand and I understand technically that's not allowed. I don't dispute those.
I don’t know man, but as an engineer if I was running a testing program for testing a human life critical system, I’m not sure if I would want you to be on the beta test. You admit yourself that you have issues with your own vision and are frequently distracted with text messages and your inability to read them on the screen.
That is not what I said. I have 20/20 from 2-3 feet out, I use readers for the screen and the warning messages placed at the bottom left of the screen are hard to see and can not be made larger. I am certainly not the only person out there with several decades of computer use accounting for needing readers. Speaking of this issue, there needs to be options for larger and better placed warnings, or different chime to identify them. One of the biggest scares I get is when I signal to change lanes, start changing lanes or exiting the freeway, then the system starts beeping and warning me that 'vehicle.is departing lane take control immediately', yet I have just manually signalled and signal is still on, I am in total control manually changing lanes. Of course I am departing lane, but I don't know if maybe missed someone in my blind spot or something else. It does this even with all the lane assist options off. With larger text placed more.toward the top of the screen it would be a bit easier to read, less distance to look away from, or have different chimes, or just fix the thing to not say 'take control immediately vehicle departing lane' when you are signalling and manually departing lane!
As far as reading texts, I should clarify the Tesla reads the texts out load to me and I verbally respond to them with voice controls HOWEVER the Tesla is constantly reading old text messages instead of the ones coming in, and I respond to them and then I get more wrong messages back along with confused people asking what I am talking about. It's a over year long bug that is still not fixed. So yes, I admit when I am completely stopped I look down to see what message actually came. Id rather not do this, but it's not unsafe at that point as I am not moving, then I use voice commands to call the correct person. The problem is in this situation I experienced is that as soon as the car starts moving you can get forced disengagement even if you move the wheel and are looking up right at that point.
FSD is fun and all but at the end of the day FSD is a 4000lb death machine that’s driving at 50-60mph while making its own decision. People seem to forget the seriousness of it and think of FSD beta as a fancy gadget-toy.
I've driven over 100 miles a day with probably 60-70% on FSDB or FSD highway on during those times since late November. Before that I drove like a granny for almost two months, over 100 miles a day, to keep safety score at 99 to qualify. I would argue that trying to meet the safety score was the most unstafe I've ever driven in the Tesla, driving to keep safety score is not how people drive here in the city, other cars don't expect slowing down that much for turns, staying that far behind other cars (which causes them to merge in front, then slam on brakes to slow for cars in front of them, which causes you to slow too fast and get penalized...) etc. I almost gave up on it because of all the situations that occurred which I would have no choice but to get demerits for based on other cars actions. For someone who drives a few miles a day keeping 98-99 for a month or two would be a lot easier, but when you are driving triple to quadruple the fleet average you are way more likely to be penalized through no fault of your own.
As far as FSDB, I've had no close calls. I totally agree with no tolerance for phone or screen use while driving (though it would be much easier if all the voice control/messaging system worked properly and if they put warning in larger text at the top of the screen near the speed instead of the bottom left, arguably the hardest place to look down to and take eyes off road, in small text, and I am not one to argue that Tesla should have more buttons and rely less on the screen, they just need to use it a bit better IMO). My argument with my strikes is just for more tolerance when sitting still and not driving when there is little to no risk. More of my argument is Tesla needs more direct user interaction. Issues range from serious (auto high beams blinding people, falso positive warning to take control vehicle departing lane when you are signally and manually changing lanes) to not so much serious (windshield auto cleaning dirty wi shield a just cleaning, perfectly clear windshield) and in between but they don't seem to get fixed - many of which not because they would be hard to fix but because info doesn't get to the right programmer/department etc.
The car, fellow motorist, pedestrians, and the entire FSD program is dependent on you to not F up. The car can do magical things but there are times that it does dumb stuff too and it’s reliant on you to keep it from doing anything so stupid that it kills someone. You were given 4 opportunities to figure out what is causing your strikes and perform corrective actions to prevent it from happening again but you were unable to do so. The suspension sucks for you but the party is all over for everyone as soon as that first accident happens. If an accident happens it’s not just the end of FSD beta, but probably the end of FSD as a viable thing for another 10 years as autonomous vehicle testing will get regulated to death.
I joined a month before they went from three strikes to 5, coincidentally I never had strikes when it was three strikes and there were apparently more false positives. One day I had three strikes, I remember them happening quick, and one of those I was guilty as I was moving about 5mph (albeit an empty road). I was lax there and shouldn't have been. I had 4 of 5 strikes for about two months now. This last strike was like a couple of the others, it appears and gives you the strike instantly, you have no chance to 'pay attention,' or manually disengage. I learned that situation where you are on a really long drive (like 18 miles but takes 1.5 hours cause lots of sitting still in traffic) causes the strikes, these situations where moving a few feet and very slow like 1-2 mph) are the times that got me.
It is also just a suspension, you might get it back after a few updates, or worst comes to worst you’d get it back when FSD is out of beta. A suspension in my view that is worth it if it means we don’t potentially get into a fatal accident involving FSD.
I don't see how I am going to get in a fatal accident going 0 to 1 mph. I've stated this several times. This is when my strikes occurred when I was sitting still and not moving, or coming out of sitting still for awhile then barely moving a foot or so further. Very low risk situation,.no pedestrians around and certainly no way for a fatal or damaging accident. I am all for instant strikes with no ability to pay attention or anything like that to make it go away. If you are driving in any other situation and are using your phone or distracted, that's fine. That's what the system should do. I am fine with being forced to use text messaging via voice and everything. In fact, that's how I have been doing it for years even before the Tesla on other cars, but when that system doesn't work right and causes more distractions instead of less, that needs to be fixed. Sure it wouldn't be a big deal if I were making short 5 minute trips. But when I'm stuck in the car sometimes for an hour and a half to 2 hours, it only driving 15 to 20 mi in that time because of traffic and most of the time sitting still or driving little to no speed, in a highway that it's bumper to bumper cars with no pedestrians and nothing tricky, I wish there should be some flexibility on how the system triggers attention in those extremely low risk situations.