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Discussion in 'Electric Vehicles' started by EternalChampion, Aug 5, 2017.
So....she liked it?
The Karma Revero Is a Very Bad Car
Is it possible that everything is bad about the Karma Revero? Everything? I suspect many people would like the exterior and interior styling.
Wow, that's a pretty damning review
Five+ thousands pounds? Why, just why?
I think that's about the cruelest automotive review I've ever read. It was probably deserved, but still. What's that saying? Any publicity is good publicity. I think they would have done Karma a favor by just not publishing anything.
I thought they would do a bit of weight reduction. But it seems they added 100 lbs more weight bringing it up from 5300 lbs to 5400 lbs.
And it seems the drivetrain and poor efficiency/performance is still the same, so no improvement there either.
Seems like history might repeat itself.
Yeah, but the author missed all the BIG questions: 1) does it have cupholders? 2) heated steering wheel? 3) HUD? 4) motorized seats? 4) free paint colors? 5) 18" good-looking wheels?
As a bit of contrast, same reviewer on the Zero.
The Electric Zero DS ZF6.5 Is the Tesla Model 3 of Motorcycles
It's certainly negative, but also kinda spot on. I'm glad to read that even the Karma reps admitted it's meant to be a 3rd car for people who just wanna cruise around. There are really no practical reasons to buy a Revero. It's not quick, or spacious, or efficient, or sporty, or inexpensive, but it certainly is flashy. Hopefully they have planned their production goals in alignment with the small market it's intended to serve.
You forgot coat hangers!
... And, of course, HUD!
Don't forget key fob or lack thereof.
Seems to me the author just got a bad Karma.
Meh, the Karma is not serious competition; the M3 beats it to sixty, probably goes just as far and weighs 1600(!)lb less for 44k. But this review was a hatchet job, one can always find something to like, I for one think it looks good from behind and OK from the front.
No reason to buy a car.
Very interesting review. Love her writing style; perfect match for the car.
The weight isn't necessarily terrible. My Model X weighs 5400 lb.
But I agree with most things said in the article. In all probability, my Model X is more exciting to drive, and it can carry an extra person, and *a lot* more luggage. If you want people looking at you the falcon wing doors do a pretty god job. And it costs 30k USD less.
The only thing the Fisker Karma had going for it was looks, and it seems like nothing's changed with the Karma Revero.
Saw what was my second Karma Revero on the road today. Saw the first one on 85 southbound maybe a year ago. This time was in Morgan Hill (south of San Jose) and was headed to 101 when I spotted it. It turned into a small industrial street where a number of automotive specialty companies are located. Was so tempted to follow it when it turned, but didn't have the time. Would have loved to have gotten a closer look and seen it's solar roof. Here's the two quick pics I took:
Looks like it was a 2018 newly hatched with no plates on it yet. Nice looking car, but given it's specs and price couldn't see why many people would choose it over the competition out there, especially if they truly wanted to go EV and forego a gasoline engine all together. Even the 2018 Chevy Volt offers more "pure electric miles" and total mileage range with it's hybrid approach. Had me wondering where the owner is located. Sales in California are in the LA area and there's only two service locations for it in-State, one in LA and one in San Francisco which I think makes it an even harder sale unless you live in one of those areas.
Found their brochure language interesting from a sales perspective:
"The Revero is about feel, not numbers. No knowledge of its 0-60 time will help you define its allure. We can and will quote impressive vehicle technical specs. But we would rather state our performance story differently: we have enough. To move you. In every way."
Regarding their Badging:
"The badges on each Revero are hand-painted, one at a time. No other car company has ever done this. Consider it a small by symbolic statement about craftsmanship and individuality." or is it more indicative about the low production numbers? regardless just found these types of statements a perplexing way to promote your high priced luxury car's best features.
I think its closest competitor is the BMW i8, which is another stupid car that has no practical purpose.
5400 lbs? My Sprinter van only weights 4990!