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KERS regen in F1

Discussion in 'Cars and Transportation' started by TEG, Oct 8, 2008.

  1. TEG

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    I don't really understand the logic.

    I can understand the opinion of "I think a flywheel will work better." But not "ban batteries!" If a battery system does not work as well, that team loses, right? Why an outright ban?
     
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    <cynic>Just in case it improves battery/capacitor technology to a point where EV road cars outperform ICE versions and F1 is even more irrelevant?</cynic>
     
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    Well, I can't say the KERS cars acquitted themselves too well in their first race. Version 1.0 issues or a demonstration that hybrid drivetrains have no benefit for high-speed, long distance road use?
     
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    #7 malcolm, Mar 29, 2009
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    It's taken 10 races, but: BBC SPORT | Motorsport | Formula 1 | Hamilton seals first win of 2009

    So not only did a hybrid F1 car finally come first, but Ferrari managed to bring theirs in second too.

    Given the limited testing they are allowed to do, it could be said that getting it to the front in under 6 months is a fair achievement. How ironic that it comes just over a month after: BBC SPORT | Motorsport | Formula 1 | Teams agree to scrap Kers system

    I've always wondered why they had this arbitrary 6.6 second per lap limit on how much it could be used. Given that any team was allowed to use it, it seems to me fair that it should have been on all the time.
     
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    Don't forget the "spoiler" next time guys :rolleyes:

    Oh well, that's opened up a 3 hr gap in my afternoon.
     
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    If you see a post in a KERS-related thread on race day, don't read the thread... :tongue:
     
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    How things change...

    BBC SPORT | Motorsport | Formula 1 | McLaren talk up Kers 'advantage'


    WARNING - this is a race weekend. Do not read this thread on Sunday if you haven't watched the race :biggrin:
     
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    McLaren will be KERSing that pit stop...


    So now there is a rumour that Red Bull will be fitting a KERS system for the next race. Perhaps it will be back for 2010.
     
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    #13 dpeilow, Oct 31, 2009
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    ^ Well, apparently it won't be.


    Last chance to see hybrid F1 cars, and at a monument to our oil money...



    EDIT: And one on pole, too.
     
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    #14 dpeilow, Apr 4, 2010
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    The Canadian Press: F1 teams set to agree to re-introduction of KERS energy boost in 2011


    It needs to be cheaper for the smaller teams (like Lotus). Anyone fancy stepping up to the challenge? :wink:


    EDIT: Interesting article - KERS must perform for F1 return


    Lotus, Mercedes, Force India and even McLaren... There are a few opportunities here on the face of it.
     
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    The return of KERS: Facts and figures - Autoblog UK


    I wonder whether now that KERS seems like it is back to stay, teams will make the investment to develop advanced lightweight batteries based on new chemistries? Could be a way for F1 to start leading the car industry forward again.
     
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    I thought the F1 KERS systems use a mechanical flywheel? Remember seeing a cut away demo somewhere.
     
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    The Williams one did, but the McLaren and Renault ones were/are electric.
     
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    Interesting discussion on F1 commentary about about the brake balance changes when the KERS is full up. Sounds a lot like our full charge/lack of regen thread.
     

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