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Key Fob or not ?
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OfficialMark_H
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Aren’t the FOB’s easier, much easier to hack than the phone or even cards?
ESP it yoy leave them near the car, say front door, while car is parked outside.
Can’t say how often it actually happens but isn’t once enough.
Besides at least for me I don’t want one more thing in my pocket. Phone is always with me; card is in wallet as a backup.
ESP it yoy leave them near the car, say front door, while car is parked outside.
Can’t say how often it actually happens but isn’t once enough.
Besides at least for me I don’t want one more thing in my pocket. Phone is always with me; card is in wallet as a backup.
MrBadger
Badger out
Only if you keep fiddling with it. Otherwise it ‘disarms’ itself after 5 minutes inactivity I am led to believe.
I thought with proper and cheap equipment you could virtually connect the fob inside and the car outside. This lets you open the car and drive it away; unless you have pin to drive active, which it seems most of us don’t. But I don’t use a fob and my car is always kept in a private garage and even still locked (but not armed - sentry) inside. But I do have numerious cameras, security lights, sensors, and alarms for the property and inside the garage.
Best thing I’ve ever bought. Much better than twotting about with your phone to unplug first thing in the morning.
(And although I’ve bought an iPhone for other reasons, even up to date Android key never worked properly)
(And although I’ve bought an iPhone for other reasons, even up to date Android key never worked properly)
I use a fob because I was used to using one with my Volvo that I traded in for a Model 3.
Because I have a house key bunch it was handy to add the fob to that - I fitted the fob into a rubber "sock" with the buttons marked out on it.
At £140 a pop they're not cheap but way cheaper than other vehicle fobs cost.
As a precaution I keep my fob (with the house keys) in a Faraday box at home.
When I'm out visiting I have a Faraday pouch that takes the fob and the house keys - for when the car is parked "uncomfortably close" to me.
It's very useful for unlocking a non-Tesla charge cable.
Works just like a phone - if it's with you (in your pocket) it can stay there when you walk up to the door and open it and drive away (PIN permitting)
If it's battery dies you simply hold it's "bottom" against the B pillar to unlock the car and place by the cupholders to drive (same as key card)
It has a boot and bonnet open buttons and works my Hansshow boot lid motor to open and close. My bonnet flies open on its own when opened!
It was and is worth it to me.
Because I have a house key bunch it was handy to add the fob to that - I fitted the fob into a rubber "sock" with the buttons marked out on it.
At £140 a pop they're not cheap but way cheaper than other vehicle fobs cost.
As a precaution I keep my fob (with the house keys) in a Faraday box at home.
When I'm out visiting I have a Faraday pouch that takes the fob and the house keys - for when the car is parked "uncomfortably close" to me.
It's very useful for unlocking a non-Tesla charge cable.
Works just like a phone - if it's with you (in your pocket) it can stay there when you walk up to the door and open it and drive away (PIN permitting)
If it's battery dies you simply hold it's "bottom" against the B pillar to unlock the car and place by the cupholders to drive (same as key card)
It has a boot and bonnet open buttons and works my Hansshow boot lid motor to open and close. My bonnet flies open on its own when opened!
It was and is worth it to me.
No, this is not the case with the Model 3 or Y, it was the case with some older Model S that used a different key mechanism.
The Keyfob for the 3 or Y connects in the same way as the phone, over bluetooth. The risk that the keyfob could be relayed with appropriate equipment is lower than a phone as it stops transmitting when it's left still for 5 minutes, the phone does not. It's not impossible to do for either, someone demonstrated doing it a few months back, but it is different to the technology used to relay other car keys.
The Tesla key is at least as secure as using the phone key, if not more secure. Add pin to drive, home security cameras and you're as safe as is reasonable, and insurance covers the risk.
There is also another solution...
TeslaFlex "Key Card" Implant
The TeslaFlex was an exercise in converting Tesla Model 3 key cards into flex implants. Check below for more details...
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Nick77
Deep Blue Model 3 LR (2021 MIC)
You can always make your own like I did. Costs less than a tenner and took about an hour.
Edit - If you just want the buttons on it then obviously its not the same. Mine is purely a backup for the phone key.
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Edit - If you just want the buttons on it then obviously its not the same. Mine is purely a backup for the phone key.
DIY Tesla Key
A what I did to my Tesla today type thread. I wanted a backup for my phone key just in case my phone died in any way while I was out. I don't like carrying the key card around with me as I don't take a wallet out with me any more, and I'd only end up losing it or leaving it in the wrong...
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Hard pass on that, having to remember which part of your anatomy is implanted with which nfc to open each car is definitely beyond me.There is also another solution...
TeslaFlex "Key Card" Implant
The TeslaFlex was an exercise in converting Tesla Model 3 key cards into flex implants. Check below for more details...
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