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Key fob

jjrandorin

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Nov 28, 2018
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Depends on why you want one.

(short questions with no context make it next to impossible to provide any meaningful information to the person posting such a question)
 
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Depends on why you want one.

(short questions with no context make it next to impossible to provide any meaningful information to the person posting such a question)
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I would think it was pretty self-explanatory -- if one knows what a key fob is and does.

As it happens I have an older phone that doesn't work well with my Tesla. A key fob would be much less expensive than buying a new galaxy 10 phone.
 

jjrandorin

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I would think it was pretty self-explanatory -- if one knows what a key fob is and does.

As it happens I have an older phone that doesn't work well with my Tesla. A key fob would be much less expensive than buying a new galaxy 10 phone.

So, thats actually almost double the context from the first post, right? How is asking is something "worth it" self explanatory? Worth it compared to what, for what purpose? What purpose were you trying to solve? (all things not answered in the first post). Those go into trying to determine if something is "worth it" right?

Some people think the keyfob is expensive at $150. Others (like me) think its very cheap, compared to the $300-500 price of the keys for my wifes BMW.

Some people really really care that the keyfob does not provide passive entry, meaning you have to take it out of your pocket and actually press the button to use it vs just carrying it around and pulling on the door handle. Others dont care.

Then there is the context of why you want it that you didnt provide before. On my iPhone, "phone as key" works 99.9 percent of the time and provides passive entry. Keyfob just provides a backup for the .1 percent of time it doesnt work. People with android phones have much less reliable results, depending on phone, making "worth" more.

Context is always important. The fact that you are asking the question because you are having issues with your phone as key feature on your phone is absolutely relevant to whether its "worth" it. Even then however, its likely your definition of "worth" is different than others. For example, I thought that purchasing the FSD upgrade for my model 3 P for 2k when it was on sale was "worth it", but seem to remember that you made a post about that same upgrade for your car was not particularly in the cards.. paraphrasing your position as I remember it anyway.

It may sound like I am lecturing but im not attempting to. I am attempting to explain my position that a short question, with no context provides very little in the way that people could provide feedback to you that would be worth your time.

Back to the keyfob. For me, its "worth it" even though I hardly use it. I am sure others feel differently.
 

hcdavis3

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So, thats actually almost double the context from the first post, right? How is asking is something "worth it" self explanatory? Worth it compared to what, for what purpose? What purpose were you trying to solve? (all things not answered in the first post). Those go into trying to determine if something is "worth it" right?

Some people think the keyfob is expensive at $150. Others (like me) think its very cheap, compared to the $300-500 price of the keys for my wifes BMW.

Some people really really care that the keyfob does not provide passive entry, meaning you have to take it out of your pocket and actually press the button to use it vs just carrying it around and pulling on the door handle. Others dont care.

Then there is the context of why you want it that you didnt provide before. On my iPhone, "phone as key" works 99.9 percent of the time and provides passive entry. Keyfob just provides a backup for the .1 percent of time it doesnt work. People with android phones have much less reliable results, depending on phone, making "worth" more.

Context is always important. The fact that you are asking the question because you are having issues with your phone as key feature on your phone is absolutely relevant to whether its "worth" it. Even then however, its likely your definition of "worth" is different than others. For example, I thought that purchasing the FSD upgrade for my model 3 P for 2k when it was on sale was "worth it", but seem to remember that you made a post about that same upgrade for your car was not particularly in the cards.. paraphrasing your position as I remember it anyway.

It may sound like I am lecturing but im not attempting to. I am attempting to explain my position that a short question, with no context provides very little in the way that people could provide feedback to you that would be worth your time.

Back to the keyfob. For me, its "worth it" even though I hardly use it. I am sure others feel differently.
I’m thinking about getting one. For me the convenience of pushing a button on the fob to open the trunk might be worth it.
 

jkoya

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Nov 21, 2018
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The key fob was worth it for me, because I keep forgetting to set "Walk-Away Door Lock". Faster to push a button in my pocket than to open the app on my phone or remove the key card from my wallet. My memory isn't the same anymore......

Worst part was tearing apart the box looking for the Lanyard that is mentioned in the package insert. Never found it and learned it doesn't come with one.
 
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SMAlset

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Mar 4, 2017
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The Model 3 key fob can now be used for Summon (was added in a firmware update a few weeks ago).

Here’s the release note on it from early April:

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I bought it because during the winter it was easier to have in my coat pocket and use rather than pull out my phone when the phone wouldn’t connect. Same for when it was raining and trying not to get my phone wet and get me in the car before I got drenched. As long as my app is set to my car and not my husband’s, my new phone works at least 99% of the time as a key however. I do find it useful for popping the trunk or frunk as someone said instead of pulling my phone out, going to the app and pressing the open button.

Also nice to give to people who don’t have the phone app for your car. I’m happy I have it.
 

Kilotango74

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Apr 2, 2019
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So, thats actually almost double the context from the first post, right? How is asking is something "worth it" self explanatory? Worth it compared to what, for what purpose? What purpose were you trying to solve? (all things not answered in the first post). Those go into trying to determine if something is "worth it" right?

Some people think the keyfob is expensive at $150. Others (like me) think its very cheap, compared to the $300-500 price of the keys for my wifes BMW.

Some people really really care that the keyfob does not provide passive entry, meaning you have to take it out of your pocket and actually press the button to use it vs just carrying it around and pulling on the door handle. Others dont care.

Then there is the context of why you want it that you didnt provide before. On my iPhone, "phone as key" works 99.9 percent of the time and provides passive entry. Keyfob just provides a backup for the .1 percent of time it doesnt work. People with android phones have much less reliable results, depending on phone, making "worth" more.

Context is always important. The fact that you are asking the question because you are having issues with your phone as key feature on your phone is absolutely relevant to whether its "worth" it. Even then however, its likely your definition of "worth" is different than others. For example, I thought that purchasing the FSD upgrade for my model 3 P for 2k when it was on sale was "worth it", but seem to remember that you made a post about that same upgrade for your car was not particularly in the cards.. paraphrasing your position as I remember it anyway.

It may sound like I am lecturing but im not attempting to. I am attempting to explain my position that a short question, with no context provides very little in the way that people could provide feedback to you that would be worth your time.

Back to the keyfob. For me, its "worth it" even though I hardly use it. I am sure others feel differently.
There’s context and then there’s ridiculously long meaningless banter. OP, it sounds like in your case it would be worth it.
 
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jjrandorin

Moderator, Model 3, Tesla Energy Forums
Nov 28, 2018
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There’s context and then there’s ridiculously long meaningless banter. OP, it sounds like in your case it would be worth it.[/QUOTE]

What would you be basing that statement on, if I had not asked my question and OP provided more information? I also provided several statements around the use of the keyfob (features that some like and some dont), that pertain directly to the OPs question.
 

Reeler

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Oct 14, 2015
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I have two of the fob v1. I will be pissed if I have to spend another $300 because of Tesla's shoddy engineering.

I have had 3 or 4 Android phones that I have tried on the Model 3 and passive entry is very spotty despite all the tweaks that the incompetent Tesla app designers failed to integrate.
 

Reeler

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Oct 14, 2015
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Denver, CO
We don’t know so far for sure. Safe bet is we will need to buy new fobs. I too am not happy about it.

The Model S v2 fob had a firmware update that the car could perform. Let's hope this is a firmware patch for our fobs that is already in the v10 nav unit software.
 

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