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Keyless Entry Thefts

Discussion in 'Model S: User Interface' started by malcolm, Aug 9, 2012.

  1. malcolm

    malcolm Active Member

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    There was an article in one of the sections of the UK's Sunday Times a few weeks back. It's available on subscription.

    However, you can get the gist from the following forum thread

    http://thealpinaregister.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=114546&sid=d092d3ad45dfdba5dcc6cd83c07711a9

    Quick extract:

    Similar article

    http://www.carbidoff.com/2012/07/are-bmws-the-easiest-cars-to-steal/


    And a transcript of an article dated feb 11 (titled: Open sesame: the magic car thieves) which features a different technique of using a wireless relay back to the car

    http://forums.overclockers.co.uk/showthread.php?p=18402066
     
  2. VolkerP

    VolkerP EU Model S P-37

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    security architecture: The fob should hold several key sequences, one for opening the vehicle, one for making it drive. The latter only available when inside the car. catching the first sequence should not give access to the second.

    And in what way is keyless entry different to pressing a button on a fob?

    I'd like to hear details on the process of 'cloning', if it requires holding the original fob (hello valets?)
     
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    What is happening on some cars is that people are breaking the window, plugging into the OBDII port with a cloning device, and resetting a key for all functions. This is happening on some new BMWs. Hopefully TESLA will not have a OBDII port in an accessable place - who knows - they may not even need an OBDII port since there are no emissions!
     
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  6. FlasherZ

    FlasherZ Sig Model S + Sig Model X + Model 3 Resv

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    BMW made it far too easy to program a new key; having the ability to program a key via OBD-II without any authentication whatsoever is the primary reason this is happening. BMW should have introduced some other requirements, such as the presence of the emergency key, or a car-specific code only available via BMW records, etc.
     

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