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For anyone looking to buy the latest MS tire for 19" wheels, be warned that there are 3 OEM Goodyear Tires all 245/45/R19 98W and all named "Eagle Touring".

The latest, which is included with the Ravens as of April 2019, is Eagle Touring Sound Comfort Technology (SCT); product number 102015578, designated as "T1" Sound Comfort Technology., which is printed on the tire, but the product number is not. These are supposed to have low rolling resistance, hence more efficient, and bette grip. They are hard to find but Tire Track has them for $226 each:
https://www.tirerack.com/tires/tire...l=Model S&autoModClar=Without Staggered Tires

The other is Eagle Touring Sound Comfort Technology (SCT) product number 102851396, designated as "T0" Sound Comfort Technology:

https://www.tirerack.com/tires/tire...Staggered Tires&partnum=445WR9ETSCT&tab=Sizes

America's Tire has them as well:
https://www.americastire.com/buy-tires/goodyear-eagle-touring-sct/p/34336

The third is Eagle Touring T0 without Sound Comfort Technology, product number 102851387:
https://www.tirerack.com/tires/tire...ut Staggered Tires&partnum=445WR9ET&tab=Sizes

America's Tire has those too:
https://www.americastire.com/buy-tires/goodyear-eagle-touring/p/38838


Goodyear's website has the first 2 with SCT; you'll see the options when you scroll down:
https://www.goodyear.com/en-US/tires/eagle-touring-sct

Here is the none-SCT, with 2 other options though only one is OEM for Tesla:
https://www.goodyear.com/en-US/tires/eagle-touring?webProductId=13507&selectedSkuNbr=102851387

Confused yet? Thanks Goodyear. Just look for T1 and you should be ok.
 

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martinsfsu said:
For anyone looking to buy the latest MS tire for 19" wheels
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I also noticed this three sku options for these tires. I am a Michelin person for sure. But, since my car came with these GYETs on it, they perform great here in Florida. People have complained they are noisy in other locations. MY second set were takeoffs from another new S, I could not pass it up at $100 each for those with SCT.

In between, I had Arachnids on and I will only put those back on here in Florida during the winter for 5000 miles at a time. Rough ride, noisy, energy eaters, expensive to replace the shoe. They look and handle great though. I'm keeping them. With latest update now its easier then ever to go from many rim styles and sizes and have the UI and APP update without going to service and have them do it. Great idea, I love that.

The last tire you mention in your study is the least expensive of them all as I recall with no SCT. I really wonder how much that foam suppresses sound. I can tell you its a hassle to patch a tire with the foam.
 
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martinsfsu said:
For anyone looking to buy the latest MS tire for 19" wheels, be warned that there are 3 OEM Goodyear Tires all 245/45/R19 98W and all named "Eagle Touring".

The latest, which is included with the Ravens as of April 2019, is Eagle Touring Sound Comfort Technology (SCT); product number 102015578, designated as "T1" Sound Comfort Technology., which is printed on the tire, but the product number is not. These are supposed to have low rolling resistance, hence more efficient, and bette grip. They are hard to find but Tire Track has them for $226 each:
https://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires.jsp?tireMake=Goodyear&tireModel=Eagle+Touring&partnum=445WR9ETSCTV2&vehicleSearch=true&fromCompare1=yes&autoMake=Tesla&autoYear=2019&autoModel=Model S&autoModClar=Without Staggered Tires

The other is Eagle Touring Sound Comfort Technology (SCT) product number 102851396, designated as "T0" Sound Comfort Technology:

https://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires.jsp?tireMake=Goodyear&tireModel=Eagle+Touring&sidewall=Blackwall&autoMake=Tesla&autoYear=2019&autoModel=Model S&autoModClar=Without Staggered Tires&partnum=445WR9ETSCT&tab=Sizes

America's Tire has them as well:
https://www.americastire.com/buy-tires/goodyear-eagle-touring-sct/p/34336

The third is Eagle Touring T0 without Sound Comfort Technology, product number 102851387:
https://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires.jsp?tireMake=Goodyear&tireModel=Eagle+Touring&sidewall=Blackwall&autoMake=Tesla&autoYear=2019&autoModel=Model S&autoModClar=Without Staggered Tires&partnum=445WR9ET&tab=Sizes

America's Tire has those too:
https://www.americastire.com/buy-tires/goodyear-eagle-touring/p/38838


Goodyear's website has the first 2 with SCT; you'll see the options when you scroll down:
Eagle® Touring SCT™ Tires | Goodyear Tires

Here is the none-SCT, with 2 other options though only one is OEM for Tesla:
Eagle® Touring Tires | Goodyear Tires

Confused yet? Thanks Goodyear. Just look for T1 and you should be ok.
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Great info here. Thank You!
I just picked up a set of the T1 version for $500 with only 1600 miles off a friends new Raven. He prefers Michelins and had them installed yesterday. Putting them on my 2018 MS100D. Has anyone tried them on a pre-Raven Model S? Impressions?
Any noticeable differences or improvements over the T0s?
 
#6
Hey Martin, great info, thanks...

Did you find anywhere in the LA area that stocks them?

Are there any better wearing alternatives with SCT type sound protection out there.
Is there any info on if the SCT does anything?
 
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The issue is that the Sound Comfort Tech (and Continental ContiSilent tech) is achieved with an internal layer of foam. Because of this, when you get a flat you won't be able to use a can of fix-a-flat in an emergency because the foam prevents the slime from distributing and sealing the puncture. Without a spare tire, the only other option is to wait for Tesla or other form of roadside assistance. I have a buddy that had a flat on his Model 3 and it took five hours for Tesla to find him a temporary wheel and tire (you then have to return the temporary wheel later on). I would rather do without the quiet foam tech and rely on myself to patch a flat (if repairable).
 
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martinsfsu said:
For anyone looking to buy the latest MS tire for 19" wheels, be warned that there are 3 OEM Goodyear Tires all 245/45/R19 98W and all named "Eagle Touring".

The latest, which is included with the Ravens as of April 2019, is Eagle Touring Sound Comfort Technology (SCT); product number 102015578, designated as "T1" Sound Comfort Technology., which is printed on the tire, but the product number is not. These are supposed to have low rolling resistance, hence more efficient, and bette grip. They are hard to find but Tire Track has them for $226 each:
https://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires.jsp?tireMake=Goodyear&tireModel=Eagle+Touring&partnum=445WR9ETSCTV2&vehicleSearch=true&fromCompare1=yes&autoMake=Tesla&autoYear=2019&autoModel=Model S&autoModClar=Without Staggered Tires

The other is Eagle Touring Sound Comfort Technology (SCT) product number 102851396, designated as "T0" Sound Comfort Technology:

https://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires.jsp?tireMake=Goodyear&tireModel=Eagle+Touring&sidewall=Blackwall&autoMake=Tesla&autoYear=2019&autoModel=Model S&autoModClar=Without Staggered Tires&partnum=445WR9ETSCT&tab=Sizes

America's Tire has them as well:
https://www.americastire.com/buy-tires/goodyear-eagle-touring-sct/p/34336

The third is Eagle Touring T0 without Sound Comfort Technology, product number 102851387:
https://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires.jsp?tireMake=Goodyear&tireModel=Eagle+Touring&sidewall=Blackwall&autoMake=Tesla&autoYear=2019&autoModel=Model S&autoModClar=Without Staggered Tires&partnum=445WR9ET&tab=Sizes

America's Tire has those too:
https://www.americastire.com/buy-tires/goodyear-eagle-touring/p/38838


Goodyear's website has the first 2 with SCT; you'll see the options when you scroll down:
Eagle® Touring SCT™ Tires | Goodyear Tires

Here is the none-SCT, with 2 other options though only one is OEM for Tesla:
Eagle® Touring Tires | Goodyear Tires

Confused yet? Thanks Goodyear. Just look for T1 and you should be ok.
Click to expand...
dont rebuy any of the goodyears as they are poor tires!!! Issue solved
 
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martinsfsu said:
For anyone looking to buy the latest MS tire for 19" wheels, be warned that there are 3 OEM Goodyear Tires all 245/45/R19 98W and all named "Eagle Touring".

The latest, which is included with the Ravens as of April 2019, is Eagle Touring Sound Comfort Technology (SCT); product number 102015578, designated as "T1" Sound Comfort Technology., which is printed on the tire, but the product number is not. These are supposed to have low rolling resistance, hence more efficient, and bette grip. They are hard to find but Tire Track has them for $226 each:
https://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires.jsp?tireMake=Goodyear&tireModel=Eagle+Touring&partnum=445WR9ETSCTV2&vehicleSearch=true&fromCompare1=yes&autoMake=Tesla&autoYear=2019&autoModel=Model S&autoModClar=Without Staggered Tires

The other is Eagle Touring Sound Comfort Technology (SCT) product number 102851396, designated as "T0" Sound Comfort Technology:

https://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires.jsp?tireMake=Goodyear&tireModel=Eagle+Touring&sidewall=Blackwall&autoMake=Tesla&autoYear=2019&autoModel=Model S&autoModClar=Without Staggered Tires&partnum=445WR9ETSCT&tab=Sizes

America's Tire has them as well:
https://www.americastire.com/buy-tires/goodyear-eagle-touring-sct/p/34336

The third is Eagle Touring T0 without Sound Comfort Technology, product number 102851387:
https://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires.jsp?tireMake=Goodyear&tireModel=Eagle+Touring&sidewall=Blackwall&autoMake=Tesla&autoYear=2019&autoModel=Model S&autoModClar=Without Staggered Tires&partnum=445WR9ET&tab=Sizes

America's Tire has those too:
https://www.americastire.com/buy-tires/goodyear-eagle-touring/p/38838


Goodyear's website has the first 2 with SCT; you'll see the options when you scroll down:
Eagle® Touring SCT™ Tires | Goodyear Tires

Here is the none-SCT, with 2 other options though only one is OEM for Tesla:
Eagle® Touring Tires | Goodyear Tires

Confused yet? Thanks Goodyear. Just look for T1 and you should be ok.
Click to expand...

Any idea why T1 would be cheaper than then the T0 with SCT?
 
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So I've had the MXM4's about 1500 miles now. Still quiet except for one specific road surface, which likely is noisy on any tire. But I get a weird "shifting" behavior in the rear on sharp turns, that I've never noticed before. As if the front end bites, but the rear suspension shifts over before also biting. Maybe the Goodyears were too relaxed to expose this suspension issue? I have run MXM4's on multiple cars before, including one I still have, and never noticed this on them either. Tire pressures are all 45 psi. Grip is better on wet roads, as expected on a new tire with lots of tread.

Efficiency wise, it's tough to tell given new tires are a bit bigger circumference, weather is getting colder, and the latest OS has tweaked both regen and battery warming. Last year (Jul-Jul) I averaged 292 wH per mile on the Goodyears, but now I'm seeing 320 on average and winter hasn't even fully hit yet.

Overall, I'm on the fence whether these are "better" than the OEM Goodyears. One thing about Michelins is they tend to age better than other tires, so I guess I need to wait until the tread wears down to see if the hold up better than the Goodyears did.
 
#19
I got the Goodyears T1 on delivery....noticed there were no little rubber tits sticking up as on all new tires....looked like they had been driven on another car for about 200-400 miles......asked delivery and of course they had no idea.....such a great car in most cases......but terrible delivery information people....

when I took delivery, it was at 1700.....told I had only 20 minutes and was shifted to 2 different people......hope service at Costa Mesa has improved should I ever need it.

I will go with Michelins when new tires are needed....maybe go to discount tire and see if I can get a trade-in discount on these
 
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