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Latest news about Hong Kong Delivery Time 2013-02-21

Discussion in 'Hong Kong' started by moarfish, Feb 21, 2013.

  1. moarfish

    moarfish Member

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    "Shipments of Model S to Europe start in the third quarter this year, and to Japan and Hong Kong in the final months of 2013, the company said yesterday. Tesla is also preparing to sell the car to drivers in China, said George Blankenship, vice president of sales."

    Source from Bloomberg


     
  2. sonywong

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    Tesla's capacity is 400 cars per week now, will move to 500 cars per week in mid 2013. Hope they can speed up the right hand drive delivery.

     
  3. DITB

    DITB Charged.hk co-founder

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    500 pr week, if they keep that rate, and don't get too many problems with the RHD model - then I cannot see why we shouldn't get Model S RHD to HK already this fall?

    I wonder how long the waiting time is in the US, if you place an order RIGHT now ...
     
  4. Alipapa

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    Just got a confirmation from Naomi saying my car isn't going to be delivered until 2014:crying:
     
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    Just out of curiosity - is it allowed to drive LHD in Hong Kong?
     
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    Nope, you can't register a LHD in Hong Kong
     
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    @Alipapa:
    Thanks, so that explains why... here in JP we can register both and I heard RHD sig is after LHD non-sig.
     
  8. DITB

    DITB Charged.hk co-founder

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    Any news of the FRT waiver - extended or not? I am NOT getting a model S if it will cost 2M+ HKD ...
     
  9. twinklejet

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    This has already been confirmed by Tesla in Q1 2013 (They said RHD production only starts in 2014)
     
  10. moarfish

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    NO news for that yet.
     
  11. lx3h

    lx3h Charged.hk TSLA Grp Rep

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    It's March!! Delivery is approaching for all of us! The Signature batch will arrive in April May or June?
     
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    markwj Moderator, Asia Pacific

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    June, I heard.
     
  13. DITB

    DITB Charged.hk co-founder

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    There are still a number of signature customers who haven't made up their minds regarding delivery. Depending on how many make up their minds in time, or not, some non-signature orders could be "on the first boat".

    Mine is is a none-sig, #114, so I might be on the second boat which could be months later than first boat. That's why I'm looking into the possibility of air freight. Since there is a lot of spare capacity from North America towards Asia, the price might not be that different if by ship of plane, and cutting off a month or so of the transportation time.

    A lot of things have to fall into place. Tesla has to cooperate on both sides of the Pacific, and customs as well as transport department must also be able to accommodate.
     
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    You'll find the cost of airfreight is about 10 times the cost of sea, at a minimum. Then there is the hassle of getting it specially exported, and the the nightmare of getting an unregistered vehicle from the freight terminal to a storage facility until its approved....etc
     
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    Air Cargo lines have been freaking out about lithium ion batteries, in fact any type of batteries, starting in 2013. Good luck. There are a lot of "Manufacturer Certifications" that are required even for sealed lead acid batteries like in computer battery backup units. It is a HUGE hassle at the very least.
     
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    Lithium ion batteries are air freighted every day. The restriction is batteries not enclosed in equipment. Shipping lithium Metal battery cells is not allowed. Lithium Ion batteries when enclosed in a piece of equipment is allowed.

    Its just a massive hassle at the dispatch end and the destination.
     
  17. DITB

    DITB Charged.hk co-founder

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    And THAT, Lerxt, is just what I am counting on. Just like a phone or a tablet, the batteries in a Tesla EV is really "batteries in equipment" :)
     
  18. Alipapa

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    Air freight from USA to HK is actually very cheap, compare with the other way around.

    What else do Americans export beside Tesla:biggrin:
     
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    Have you asked Tesla? Will they do it just for you?

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    How cheap is cheap?
     
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    #20 DITB, Mar 3, 2014
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    Lots of different things go the other way, but not in the same amounts. Fresh fruits and seafood are items that often go the other way, as well as high tech and other specialised equipment. Chemicals and medical equipment. And luxury cars ... many a Bentley, Rolls and sport car make their way into China and arabic countries this way.

    lx3h, yes, I am talking to Tesla and they are looking into it now.

    It's not that I cannot wait at all, but if the time between shipments is counted in months, and I'm not in the first shipment, I will consider the difference between air lifting and sailing across. Compared to the total price of the car, it might not be that much of a difference in the end. As for the environment, it will cost some fuel, but with planes going half empty returning to HK, it won't be too much. In fact, I can calculate quite precisely how much refined kerosene a 2,5 tonnes of car and pallet would incur in extra fuel burn on a typical freighter flight. Can someone else then calculate how much crude oil a ship would use?

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    UPDATE:

    On a modern and efficient jet aircraft, adding 2500 kg of freight to a flight going from San Francisco to Hong Kong (via Anchorage) will cost roughly 1300 litres extra of jet fuel burn this time of year. (It varies with winds, which are a bit stronger in the winter). Jet fuel is a bit like diesel fuel, in fact a diesel car will run fine on it (but the fuel pumps might be damaged unless you add some lubricant found in diesel fuel), so a typical diesel car could drive close to 20,000 km on the same fuel, if it was run at a constant 80 km/h.

    How much fuel does a ship use, for the same journey carrying 2500 kg extra?
     

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