I'm sorry, but this makes no sense. Most people aren't going to take a trip that requires many hours of charging in RV parks along the way, they will take their ICE instead, but would take their Tesla when the superchargers are available. For example, the number of Teslas driving from Texas to the beaches of Destin, Florida last year could probably be counted on one hand. Does that mean it's not worth it to put superchargers along I-10? Of course not. When the superchargers are there the number of Teslas driving on that route will increase exponentially.
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But it is a little like a chicken or the egg phenomenon. Folks may not be driving certain areas and routing through others since there are now SCs there. I know that is true in my case. I was planning a San Antonio to El Paso trip to visit family and was looking forward to driving the MS. Now it will be much more a hassle and I'll probably fly.
No argument there. So I'll change up my "theory" slightly - Tesla knows where its cars "live" at night. . . Again, not perfect, but I'm sure they're concentrating on where the most Teslas are.
So because people are not doing a route which is extremely difficult without a supercharger, Tesla will not put a Supercharger?
That makes no sense. Under that logic, there was no demand for Electric cars in 2007.
bollar
Disgruntled Member
I-10 has quite a bit of sex appeal, I guess, but the traffic counts around Van Horn are among the lowest in the state, at only 5K vehicles/day. It makes sense that other routes have been prioritized higher.
adelman
R 539, S VIN S44, X Sig#1
In the 12+ years i've been charging in Santa Cruz, I could count on one hand the number of times I've seen ICEing, and most of those times it was in the Soquel-Front Garage where the person parked there to pay their tab at the nearby window (ie., they were ICEing for under 5 minutes). For some reason, the hippies seem polite here.
California has about 60% of all Teslas in the US but only aprox 20% of the Superchargers. Tesla is already favoring coverage over density. The Superchargers where waiting times have been reported many times are all in California. California isn't treated better or given priority, more the opposite given the demand here.
But they wouldn't be comparing routes with superchargers against routes without, just where people are trying to get to that don't have superchargers. If, by your example, a handful of people did the trip to Destin, Florida without superchargers, but nobody did an equivalent trip to another location, that would definitely imply that people want to go there because some people were willing to try even without superchargers.
Believe the stated goal of Superchargers was not to provide regular charges but to provide a means of getting places. Makes sense to build out the Supercharger network nationwide rather than close to Californian's home so that Californians can leave.
A year ago when my Model S was delivered the nearest Supercharger was over 500 miles away. Now there is one 125 miles away but not in a direction I travel.
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Hmm, this site doesn't give us the means to hide URLs under text to make something like the above readable.
The first is 2015, the second is 2016. Many thanks for posting them! They zoom nicely in Safari.
Am mildly amused to see two Supercharger icons on Nashville. Can't help think thats a goof as not even one site has been selected yet unless one is going in the service center south of town in Brentwood which is 16 miles south of the center of Nashville. Not ideal for those traveling east/west on I-40 or I-24 but OK for north/south on I-65.
Cottonwood
Roadster#433, Model S#S37
It does if you are willing to edit the pseudo HTML that the site creates when you insert a link. See below for examples with the appropriate edits. Do a "Reply with Quote" to look at these edited links.
Tesla Supercharger 2015 Map — High Resolution
Tesla Supercharger 2016 Map — High Resolution
Hi Phil,
The interactive map shows this year for the Jacksonville and Tallahassee dots.
Larry
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caddieo
Member
Notable change in the map: as noted in another thread, the Macon, GA supercharger has been deleted from the list of superchargers in the TM Supercharger page. The Macon dot is also missing from the "Find Us" page at the TM site. Anybody out there with info as to why?
caddieo
Member
Hopefully closer to I 475, some exits of which seem to have good commercial areas.
reddy
Active Member
Looking at the latest maps for I40, there seems to be some shift on where the dots were placed.
It now looks like the next chargers will be Albuquerque as before.
Santa Rosa was added; Tucumcari was on the original map. This would be 116 miles from ABQ instead of 172 miles.
Tucumcari shows up still, but not on the 'COMING SOON' map, but on the 2015 map. Clearly they are rejiggering the dots to accommodate the S60, since there only 60 miles from Santa Rosa to Tucumcari.
Next comes Amarillo, which will be 172 miles from Santa Rosa, and 112 miles from Tucumcari.
The original map's next stop was in Sayre, Oklahoma; now the dot is definitely inside Texas at Shamrock, TX and is only 96 miles from Amarillo.
I can't tell for sure if the next eastbound stop is Clinton, OK or Weatherford OK. My bet here is Clinton, with the casino, at 83 miles from Shamrock.
This would make it 85 miles to Oklahoma City, 147 miles to the Perry OK SC, or 182 miles to Ardmore OK SC.
The I-25 chargers at Las Vegas, NM and Trinidad, CO are still on the coming soon list.
I've got a helper looking for building permits for Amarillo, and so far none has been approved. I suspect that we will start to hear about ABQ, Santa Rosa, Amarillo, Shamrock, and Clinton as a group. Once these open up , that connects Texas to NM and CO, although not by the shortest route.
It now looks like the next chargers will be Albuquerque as before.
Santa Rosa was added; Tucumcari was on the original map. This would be 116 miles from ABQ instead of 172 miles.
Tucumcari shows up still, but not on the 'COMING SOON' map, but on the 2015 map. Clearly they are rejiggering the dots to accommodate the S60, since there only 60 miles from Santa Rosa to Tucumcari.
Next comes Amarillo, which will be 172 miles from Santa Rosa, and 112 miles from Tucumcari.
The original map's next stop was in Sayre, Oklahoma; now the dot is definitely inside Texas at Shamrock, TX and is only 96 miles from Amarillo.
I can't tell for sure if the next eastbound stop is Clinton, OK or Weatherford OK. My bet here is Clinton, with the casino, at 83 miles from Shamrock.
This would make it 85 miles to Oklahoma City, 147 miles to the Perry OK SC, or 182 miles to Ardmore OK SC.
The I-25 chargers at Las Vegas, NM and Trinidad, CO are still on the coming soon list.
I've got a helper looking for building permits for Amarillo, and so far none has been approved. I suspect that we will start to hear about ABQ, Santa Rosa, Amarillo, Shamrock, and Clinton as a group. Once these open up , that connects Texas to NM and CO, although not by the shortest route.
Cottonwood
Roadster#433, Model S#S37
See my analysis at I-40 — Marching Towards OKC
I agree with most of what you said, but it looks like the Supercharger west of OKC will be Weatherford, OK.
Has anyone created a list of the likely Supercharger locations for 2016? I was starting to create one, but rather than recreate the wheel, I thought I would ask.
John
Tesla may be updating their supercharger map soon since showing which stations will open in 2015 will start looking pretty silly a week from now. I'd wait a couple weeks before trying to put something together in case we get more updated information. The current "2016" map (and previous longer term projections) have been more aspirational than realistic in general and the specific locations of the pins are quite imprecise.
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