There's no hot wire. You'd have to bake the light open and access the wire directly, assuming you can. :-(
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As requested:
Lo Beams:
Hi Beams:
Turn signals do, indeed, work.
Mike K, do you mind if I forward some of your comments to my service advisor?
Holy hell. I'm embarrassed it took me this long to notice but you realize those aren't the facelift lights in your car right? Those are the standard HID lights. So you can pretty much ignore everything I've said up until now. Those absolutely SHOULD work out of the gate unless there truly are two different part numbers for the older cars. Can you ask your tech to look and determine whether or not he's got the right part number for the suspension your car has?
For reference, these are the LED lights:
So your car originally had the halogen lights? Do you have the tech package? For some reason I seem to recall not having the tech package doesn't have the DRL part function.Huh, thanks Mike K! So I got what I asked for and they still don't work? That doesn't make any sense.
I really appreciate your feedback. They should, indeed, be able to get these to work. I'll follow up with the SC. Thanks again!
Doesn't help anyone trying to do the LED retrofit, but I hope someone figures it out someday!
So your car originally had the halogen lights? Do you have the tech package? For some reason I seem to recall not having the tech package doesn't have the DRL part function.
Huh, thanks Mike K! So I got what I asked for and they still don't work?
Ok, so what you have is a software problem. Somehow, the SC turned off DRL functionality. I don't know about the newer software, but the older versions(pre7.0) had a toggle to disable/enable DRL funtionality in the service menu. The parts interchange, so this was a plug and play deal. I'm not really surprised at your problem, as the idiots at most SC's can screw up just about anything one can imagine. There should be no excuse for throwing out your parts before getting the new parts to work. The good news is that it's their problem now, so don't bend and make them fix it.Well, this is remaining quite the mess. I haven't heard from the SC that performed the HID headlight swap in a week. There is another SC nearby (we have two in this area) and both are equidistant from me. I called the other SC to schedule my Roadster annual service and asked them about this Model S headlight issue. Here is what they wrote via email:
After discussing the Daytime running lights with my shop foreman, he has informed me that it will no longer function after the HID headlight upgrade, due to a hardware configuration that cannot be changed. He is also looking into your outer ring (signature light) it should light up to his knowledge.
Does this seem right? Again, I have a older VIN (9100) 2013 MS 85, non tech-package. I had DRL before, even with the halogens. My DRL button disappears after a software update and they're saying they can't get DRL working on my car with HID's?
Sorry to hijack the LED thread, but I would I could use some help here.
Ok, so what you have is a software problem. Somehow, the SC turned off DRL functionality. I don't know about the newer software, but the older versions(pre7.0) had a toggle to disable/enable DRL funtionality in the service menu. The parts interchange, so this was a plug and play deal. I'm not really surprised at your problem, as the idiots at most SC's can screw up just about anything one can imagine. There should be no excuse for throwing out your parts before getting the new parts to work. The good news is that it's their problem now, so don't bend and make them fix it.
Yes. The outer rings are called DRL. In the US the firmware allows the on/off toggle. Like I said, the most likely reason you dont have them is the toggle(if it still exists in the newer firmwares) is turned off in the service menu.Thanks, qwk. I appreciate the response.
I've always had a DRL button on the setting screen, but it disappeared after I did a software update later in the evening after the installation. Like I said, I'm pretty sure the tech pushed that OTA software update to my car.
Just to clarify, the outer ring of lights (I guess they're called signature lights per my service advisor), were identical on the halogen vs. HID lights, correct? From my understanding, the only difference between these lights is that the former used halogen bulbs in the projector whereas the latter used the HID bulbs + ballasts. Is this correct? If the signature lights are identical and I had DRL before, I should still have DRL. Odd the SC is telling me it's not possible. I just don't understand why the signature lights are not working at all, even when the headlights are on.
Thanks for the advice. I will, indeed, keep on them.
I can say for sure that the entire production run up to the refresh (2012-2016) had the same headlight wiring, regardless of HID/Halogen. The new refresh lights use the same connector, but a totally different pin configuration with a LIN connection from the Body ECU to control the lights, which is not present on the pre-refresh cars.
Thought I would quote this for you to show your tech/ service advisor. So I am right. The harnesses and pinout would be identical. So who the hell knows why they even bothered to change anything in the software because it sounds like they literally could have dropped in an HID light capsule and it would have worked fine with no software change.
Is it safe to assume that there is still no complete success on the LED retrofit?
I guess the only option then is something like this: D3S LED Headlight Conversion Kit
FlatSix911, I have those first-gen Model S LED headlights, and agree they are poor.Stick with the HID headlights if you want better visibility and higher lumens than the LED lights.
The OEM LED headlights have been rated poorly by the IIHS for both 2017/2018 test samples.
2017 Tesla Model S
FlatSix911, I have those first-gen Model S LED headlights, and agree they are poor.
Is there an updated headlight yet from Tesla or an upgrade we can do to fix them, do you know?
Thanks/regards