Let the hacking begin... (Model S parts on the bench)

[Adrian]

Maybe release a tweak that shows a front-cam at low speed for parking situations

 

[Tedkidd]

So Jack mentions Jason again this week (twittergate minute 43).

Bigger issue - he seems stuck getting drive units to work (m1:20:00) and needs CAN captures from cars with different drive units - particularly older cars (more likely to have salvage motors).

The people with this motor want to use it in a boat. That sounds really fun! Is crowd sourcing data something folks on this thread could readily provide to him?

 

[Ingineer]

I called this. Welcome to the Immobilizer, Jack!

 

[lolachampcar]

Anyone else find it curious that the ViN is broadcast over the CAN?

 

[obrien28]

Anyone else find it curious that the ViN is broadcast over the CAN?

I would find it strange if they didn't, they would need it for their Toolbox application (which displays the VIN), possibly to verify the supercharger status (though which side does the auth is still up in the air), or a myriad of other uses where it might be handy to have the VIN number present on the bus, plus the fact that it only gets sent once a minute or so indicates that it's important but not critical.

As for Jacks woes, there is no VIN number checking when it comes to swapping parts (at least yet), the reason it shuts down is because the firmware on the car and DU (or other part) don't match. wk057 has talked at length about this over on the IRC channel, however, a little birdy told me that Tesla recently released their coveted Toolbox application on the service site, with one of the features being a firmware re-deploy command that synchronizes all the various devices on the car, so they speak the same language (problem solved). Given this is all over CAN, I bet (theoretically of course) the right command sequence should be pretty easy to duplicate sans Toolbox.

 

[Sogorman]

"however, a little birdy told me that Tesla recently released their coveted Toolbox application on the service site,"

edit: not sure if this site was available or not but.... Toolbox

Do tell!

 

[apacheguy]

Must be missing something. With the Toolbox you can wake the disabled diagnostic port, access service screens, change the vehicle config, pull the latest firmware, etc. Why would Tesla release that?

 

[obrien28]

Must be missing something. With the Toolbox you can wake the disabled diagnostic port, access service screens, change the vehicle config, pull the latest firmware, etc. Why would Tesla release that?

As Bob Dylan might say "the times they are a changin", in my mind it's all for the better, after a recent experience with my local service center I came to the conclusion a team of trained circus monkeys could have done a better job (and cheaper!). Now I can check my cars DTC's and related information myself, instead of waiting 2 days for them to "pull logs..." only for them to tell me it's problem with the utility (oh yes, I have problems with my utility, but this ain't one of them)

 

[jaguar36]

Is the toolbox included in a service subscription? I was under the impression that it was (and still is) always only available to certified body shops.

 

[obrien28]

Is the toolbox included in a service subscription? I was under the impression that it was (and still is) always only available to certified body shops.

Yes, I had to use my service account in order to login to the application, so it's not quite free, but better than nothing

 

[jaguar36]

Well thats great news. Are they offering anyway to get an 'offical' PCAN cable to connect it?

 

[apacheguy]

Yes, I had to use my service account in order to login to the application, so it's not quite free, but better than nothing

You mean download, right? I'm assuming the toolbox runs on a windows PC as shown in the cleantechnica blog.

 

[jaguar36]

You mean download, right? I'm assuming the toolbox runs on a windows PC as shown in the cleantechnica blog.

The toolbox requires a login at startup too.

 

[Sogorman]

Yes, I had to use my service account in order to login to the application, so it's not quite free, but better than nothing

That's great news! Do you just have a personal service account? Guessing you are in MA or at least have a MA address?

Also without sharing any screenshots or littature can you outline the functionality? Do you know if this the same build that the SC uses? It would be nice to be able to program new keys and such.

 

[Btr_ftw]

"however, a little birdy told me that Tesla recently released their coveted Toolbox application on the service site,"

edit: not sure if this site was available or not but.... Toolbox

Do tell!

Looks like I'm cancelling all plans tonight....

 

[Sogorman]

Looks like I'm cancelling all plans tonight....

BTR, thanks again for this thread it has been truly inspiring, more to come on that for the group in the future.

I am not sure what the EULA is like for the TM Service site and software, but it appears that you need a valid login to download and use the TM toolbox application.

Can you let us know if the daily subscription will allow you to login to the app? I wondering if they will give it to a daily user or just to the authorized repair facilities.

Having Toolbox would be invaluable for diagnosing/flashing the vehicles without having to hack them as well as all the little things like programming keys that to date is a no-go.

 

[apacheguy]

Here's a good one. My battery odo exactly matches my car odo... I had my pack replaced at 50 K.

 

[Benjamin Brooks]

Also, I have *not* replaced my battery, but my battery lifetime charge & discharge kWh numbers are way less than (only ~1/3rd?) my lifetime kWh numbers from the Trip Meter on the IC.

 

[garygid]

During the $30 one hour subscription, can you download all the manuals to use later?

 

[qwk]

Also, I have *not* replaced my battery, but my battery lifetime charge & discharge kWh numbers are way less than (only ~1/3rd?) my lifetime kWh numbers from the Trip Meter on the IC.

Where are you looking, in toolbox?