pupik
Member
you did not understand me...
I need a low-level linux command because my QtCar app now is stopped
I do not need on/off via GUI_lastTouchTime register
Just qtcar app works with touch and wake the display...
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you did not understand me...
I need a low-level linux command because my QtCar app now is stopped
I do not need on/off via GUI_lastTouchTime register
Just qtcar app works with touch and wake the display...
Thanks.
With the JTAG, are we talking totally disabled on all devices (Tegra4, SPC5668, SierraWireless module)? Or are some of them in censored mode where you need a password?
It sounds like 8.1 hasn't been rooted yet - has anyone obtained the firmware from an update on an already rooted device?
pupik
Member
A handful of folks already have already rooted 8.1 and probably an even larger number of folks have obtained the firmware. Those who have all keep it pretty close to the chest though.
bacila4666
Member
Does anybody have an image of the europe navigon card, preferably version EU-Q413 ? Or anybody having an EU car please private message to me, I can help in getting a dump. Also I can also help with many other things
what sw version ? (for use CHADEMO you need update sw like 7.1 (2.36.31) it is best for me).
Navi contact .... by email.
Thanks to a good guy from this forum who helped me with EU navigation microSD image. I manage to fix navigation. Now I only have two issues: Chademo and new api key for google map. Both of them I understand can be solved with upgrade to sw 7.1. Bacila, thank you for info, I have sent to you a private message with my e-mail address.
Can anybody tell me if there is a known way to root the latest firmware? And if there is, how would I do it? If you don't want to post it publicly, feel free to pm me.
TMC users ought to change their attitude toward rooting, IMO. It’s crazy that there is this veil of secrecy over rooting especially when it could help many salvage owners.
I totally respect those that derived their own exploits and want to keep that secret. But once Tesla patches vehicles and a grace period has elapsed (say 6 months) then it is in everyone’s interest to make those exploits public. It’s disappointing that this is not the case.
I totally respect those that derived their own exploits and want to keep that secret. But once Tesla patches vehicles and a grace period has elapsed (say 6 months) then it is in everyone’s interest to make those exploits public. It’s disappointing that this is not the case.
Once Tesla patches the vehicles what is the point of making the now non-existent exploit public?
I suspect that majority of rooting exploits being used haven't been patched, so they wouldn't fall under your release guideline.
A fair amount have been patched, actually. But yes, of course I do not expect folks who have working exploits to release them.
Salvage owners do not receive updates. Thus it is in their interest to have these exploits made public. Plus those who are interested in these topics I’m sure will agree. Makes a lot of sense to me.
I suppose one caveat that I’ll add is if the exploit is entirely remote in nature (and doesn’t require any intervention from the owner) then perhaps it should be kept quiet.
But the vast majority of exploits, AFAIK, require extensive physical access to the vehicle.
But the vast majority of exploits, AFAIK, require extensive physical access to the vehicle.
So, here’s the issue, while I completely agree with what @apacheguy is saying, in reality it’s a bit murkier then that only the fools like myself and a few others have shown they exploited there own car, and Tesla rewards you with the blacklist and basically no software updates.
Perhaps a “private” trusted repository would be better then public declarations since tesla has an openly dim view of these things and makes your life much harder for some things.
However private groups with free sharing information could benefit folks and also people stop selling there exploits to tesla for non remote issues would go a long way, Tesla is not finding this stuff on their own, people are selling it to them at the cost of the community.
Perhaps a “private” trusted repository would be better then public declarations since tesla has an openly dim view of these things and makes your life much harder for some things.
However private groups with free sharing information could benefit folks and also people stop selling there exploits to tesla for non remote issues would go a long way, Tesla is not finding this stuff on their own, people are selling it to them at the cost of the community.
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Actually there is a point in making those exploits public: Others can learn from it. I have absolutely no clue about how the system works, and without root access I have no way to figure out how it works, which means no root access can be obtained. When we get information about what others have done, we can build on that previous knowledge.
And as far as using known unpatched exploits: There should be some kind of community where those things are documented as I think there are quite a few people who want to get root.
And as far as using known unpatched exploits: There should be some kind of community where those things are documented as I think there are quite a few people who want to get root.
Once more cars get completely out of warranty, I'm sure it will happen. Given physical access to the HW it's not that hard to obtain root access to a linux system. I just know that I'm not pulling my dash apart before the warranty is out
One way to learn more about the system without any of the risks mentioned above, is to buy an used MCU and instrument cluster and play with it. If you dont have the skills yourself, maybe a non-tesla owner (badass hacker) would appreciate the challenge if given the HW for free? At least he wont have to worry about being black-listed.
One way to learn more about the system without any of the risks mentioned above, is to buy an used MCU and instrument cluster and play with it. If you dont have the skills yourself, maybe a non-tesla owner (badass hacker) would appreciate the challenge if given the HW for free?
At least he wont have to worry about being black-listed.
davidc18
Active Member
I will soon be out of warranty and will be looking for a way to maintain the car without Tesla.
Same here, would prefer to be able to get a hold of toolbox and do it the same way Tesla does just in case I need to take it in to them. But root would be useful too.
Join the club! The nearest tesla service is 1000 km far away from the place where I live. If you want to keep it alive, you have to learn and do all the service yourself. Once you understand how it works, it is not that hard. But the car is buggy and you have to take care of the small annoying things that sometimes makes you think about buying a diesel! I was driving 10 years Audi and never had an issue. Everybody knows how to do maintenance and I can order and have in 2 hours any part. Unfortunately, because of stupid service policy and lack of service parts, Tesla will loose most of its fans. I personally sold my Tesla shares and will probably buy an electric Porsche or Audi when available.
The nearest tesla service is 1000 km far away from the place where I live. If you want to keep it alive, you have to learn and do all the service yourself. Once you understand how it works, it is not that hard. But the car is buggy and you have to take care of the small annoying things that sometimes makes you think about buying a diesel! I was driving 10 years Audi and never had an issue. Everybody knows how to do maintenance and I can order and have in 2 hours any part. Unfortunately, because of stupid service policy and lack of service parts, Tesla will loose most of its fans. I personally sold my Tesla shares and will probably buy an electric Porsche or Audi when available.
