Lets get an official TMC Vote on the Horn Location Change

[2101Guy]

Lets see what the overall consensus is on the new horn button location

 

[alstoralset]

I think left-handers may struggle the most with the change.

The M3 has/had a defect that caused the left upper corner of the horn button to malfunction, but this design takes anti-left discrimination to a new level.

 

[Big Toys]

You mean, it's not on the screen, 2 menus in?

 

[cryptyk]

My motorcycle horn is on my left handlebar. I've never had an issue finding and pressing it when needed.

 

[DukeofURL]

I mean, I would *prefer* the traditional method (in the middle), but I've had cars that only had small buttons for the horn and never had a problem with it...

 

[2101Guy]

I mean, I would *prefer* the traditional method (in the middle), but I've had cars that only had small buttons for the horn and never had a problem with it...

ButtonS or buttoN?

 

[DukeofURL]

ButtonS or buttoN?

Two little buttons, on each side. That said, it was not easy to get to them regardless.

 

[Yanniz]

Don’t even remember when the last time was that I used the horn!! If I had to choose, I would prefer the traditional way I guess.

 

[ZilWin]

One would think with all the Tesla AI and such, a horn button would not be necessary. The car should determine when the horn should be activated and the level of aggression necessary.

 

[cryptyk]

Don’t even remember when the last time was that I used the horn!! If I had to choose, I would prefer the traditional way I guess.

By "traditional way", do you mean the one finger salute?

 

[jabloomf1230]

You left off "Don't care". I don't use the horn enough to really worry about this.

 

[ZilWin]

One would think with all the Tesla AI and such, a horn button would not be necessary. The car should determine when the horn should be activated and the level of aggression necessary.

And maybe a 'mood' setting in the menu to determine the level and duration of the horn. the ubiquitoous 'Chill' mode, the 'I need to vent' mode, and the 'You wanna see who the bigger Ahole is?' mode

 

[Cheburashka]

My motorcycle horn is on my left handlebar. I've never had an issue finding and pressing it when needed.

How often do you turn your motorcycle handlebars over 360 degrees?

 

[cryptyk]

How often do you turn your motorcycle handlebars over 360 degrees?

Fair point.
If that ever happens, we're beyond the point where the horn is needed.

 

[airborne spoon]

By "traditional way", do you mean the one finger salute?

by one finger salute do you mean the "California hello"? And i have trouble using that when I'm in the car. Now on the Harley i wave a CA hello to A LOT of people while I'm out riding.

But seriously its pretty stupid to move the horn from the middle of the wheel to a tiny button on the side. When you need to quickly alert someone all the surface area of the middle of the wheel is a hell of a lot easier to hit in a microsecond vs hitting a tiny button on the side of the wheel with a single finger.

 

[Cheburashka]

What's the advantage of removing the horn from the center of the wheel anyway?

 

[cryptyk]

What's the advantage of removing the horn from the center of the wheel anyway?

It's a safety thing. What do most people do right before they get in an accident? Honk the horn. That puts your hand right over the airbag at the exact moment it goes off. 27% of accidents lead to the airbag breaking your wrist and smashing your hand into your own face. Elon thoughtfully placed the horn on the side of the yoke to avoid face-smashing.

* 65% of statistics are made up, just like everything in this post.

 

[BigNick]

ButtonS or buttoN?

Back in the early days of airbags, it was frequently too difficult or expensive to have the center of the steering wheel work as the horn. This led to multiple horn buttons on steering wheel spokes, sometimes as many as four of them within convenient thumb-reach. Even a setup similar to this would be preferable to the tiny contact space for the horn on a single yoke "spoke."

 

[BigNick]

It's a safety thing. What do most people do right before they get in an accident? Honk the horn. That puts your hand right over the airbag at the exact moment it goes off. 27% of accidents lead to the airbag breaking your wrist and smashing your hand into your own face. Elon thoughtfully placed the horn on the side of the yoke to avoid face-smashing.

* 65% of statistics are made up, just like everything in this post.

I now have a visual of an angry driver punching the center of the wheel with his fist, only to have the airbag deploy in the shape of a large boxing glove, punching him back. Yes, I'm weird.

Also, it's 69% of statistics that are made up.

 

[Big Toys]

I had an 80's Honda Civic that had one horn button on each side of the wheel. I guess it could still work.