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Limited Time: 100 kWh Battery Upgrade (S/X), Ludicrous+ Capable, 2 Year Warranty

I installed it now... but, a bit late.
@wk057 Can I get your opinion on the recent software change to run the pack (atleast in my Model S warrantied 90 pack) at 110*F ? The car keeps the radiator bypassed until the motor waste heat raises the pack to this temp. I suspect this temp could shorten the pack life.

Can a Rooted User lower the Passive Cooling Target? Or could you roll-back my software to an earlier version? My other idea is to unplug the Radiator Bypass Valve after it enables the radiator loop, so the radiator is always-enabled (but that wouldn't help long road trips.)
 

wk057

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Feb 23, 2014
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And here it is:

There's still a few bugs to work out, but good enough for now.

Already have a handful of upgrades scheduled thanks to the upgrade price estimate site!

Funny enough, we actually ended up with a reasonably good condition v2 90 pack that I was going to post for sale here... then today someone put in an order for a normal priced 70->90 upgrade. I spotted that before they paid the invoice and just added the discount to it..... and, well I actually just ended up confusing the heck out of the customer. 😂 But they're happy now. :cool:

The target is really that we don't make any more on, for example, a 70 to 100 upgrade than we do for a 70 to 75 upgrade. The pricing is built to reflect actual costs + labor/supplies. Our core business is selling batteries, and... well we're selling batteries. 😜

Sadly, if things keep going where they're going, 100 upgrades are likely to get even more expensive. Prices have just been creeping upward all around on them. Going to leave the pricing as-is for the time being on the configurators, but if they start costing us significantly more we'll have to incorporate those adjustments.
 

MP3Mike

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Sadly, if things keep going where they're going, 100 upgrades are likely to get even more expensive. Prices have just been creeping upward all around on them. Going to leave the pricing as-is for the time being on the configurators, but if they start costing us significantly more we'll have to incorporate those adjustments.
Yeah, I would expect that to be the case. As packs fail, or are taken out of commission by accidents, the pool of available packs is getting smaller every day. Is Tesla even making any packs compatible with the older Model S/X anymore? (Can you put the new 5 module refresh pack in a "legacy" S/X?)
 

wk057

Vendor & Senior Tinkerer
Feb 23, 2014
6,074
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Hickory, NC, USA
Yeah, I would expect that to be the case. As packs fail, or are taken out of commission by accidents, the pool of available packs is getting smaller every day. Is Tesla even making any packs compatible with the older Model S/X anymore? (Can you put the new 5 module refresh pack in a "legacy" S/X?)

It's a weird situation from what I can tell.

My understanding of the situation on Tesla's side is this: The S/X module production lines were doing double duty making S/X 100-type modules as well as Powerwall/Powerpack modules, and now they're fully Powerwall/Powerpack... however, they can still switch gears and make S/X 100-type modules any time they want to without any real slowdown, and have done so for batches of the new 14-module 350V packs. I'd have to guess they can also just make 16 module pack batches if needed.

As for the new packs, they're not really physically compatible, and electrically the voltage is too high for the original S/X.

We do have a project for making Model 3 modules work in a modified S/X pack enclosure, but I'm not 100% sure this is something that will ever be customer-ready.

For now, our focus is on getting our custom replacement pack ready for prime time. This way you can actually get a mostly new pack (all the parts that matter, anyway) as a replacement/upgrade if desired, even though it's non-OEM. Still quite the road ahead to make it production ready and worthy of putting in a customer vehicle long term, but we're working hard to get there. The main issue in keeping costs down on this is going to be volume. We're trying to keep this completely in-house funded, but the way everything seems to be going we're more likely going to need an investment capital injection at some point to get this pushed over the finish line. Making one is expensive. Making 100+ should put pricing closer to Tesla's refurbished pack prices... but I don't really have a couple million bucks sitting around collecting dust anywhere, sadly. (I mean, if anyone here does, though... let me know. 😜 )
 
It would depend on where, but generally in the $1500-2000 each way range. (Funny enough, to/from Europe can be cheaper than to/from California at times.)
Any chance for a 057 EU partner in future? (which will do the actual installation or even apply your offered upgrades?)
Esp. the Battery Service Plan sounds great as my warranty ends next year but yeah, shipping/import/installation costs will kill the deal 🤐
 
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Any chance for a 057 EU partner in future? (which will do the actual installation or even apply your offered upgrades?)
Esp. the Battery Service Plan sounds great as my warranty ends next year but yeah, shipping/import/installation costs will kill the deal 🤐
Yes, I'd also much appreciate such support in EU including the "extended warranty program"... + I'm also kind of looking for a 100kWh pack for my 85D and couldn't find any for a reasonable price.. And finally, I'd love to work in such service center as I'm big ev+solar enthusiast, that would be a dream job :)
 

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