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List of Model S unfulfilled needs/wants (by request)

Discussion in 'Model S' started by twinklejet, Jun 16, 2013.

  1. twinklejet

    twinklejet Member

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    #1 twinklejet, Jun 16, 2013
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    Alright so I posted this in another thread and someone sent me a message and suggested I make a new thread for this (maybe sticky? moderators?) to provide a comprehensive list of the needs/wants of Model S owners for future implementation.
    Most of these features are already present in competitor brands.


    -TEXT ONLY LIST BY CATEGORY-


    CREATURE COMFORTS/LUXURY/ENTERTAINMENT
    1) Cup holders/Side Pockets/Hand grips
    2) 4 zone climate control
    3) massaging seats (VW etc.)
    3i) Adjustable thigh support / 18-or-more-way seat adjustment
    4) cooling seats with perforated leather (BMW, Mercedes, etc.)
    5) dedicated sunglass holders
    6) seat position synchronisation (Audi etc.)
    7) video available when not in motion (BMW etc.)
    8) seat back entertainment
    8i) blu ray player, etc.
    9) cooler/fridge compartment (Rolls etc.)
    10) television signal reception
    11) retractable blackout screens / sunshades on all side and back windows (Audi A8 etc.)
    11i) automate such blackout screens / sun screens
    12) Option to link specific driver profiles to specific keys (BMW, etc.)
    13) Rear center/centre console option that does not restrict usability of rear center/centre seat
    14) Heated Rear Seats
    15) Heated Steering Wheel
    16) Apple iDevice integration
    16i) iOS 7 Car Integration
    16ii) Hands-Free SIRI button / Integrate SIRI into voice recognition
    17) Retractable Coat Hangar
    18) Properly lighted mirrors (technically lighting your face not the mirror...)


    DRIVER ASSISTS/SAFETY
    1) dynamic(adaptive) radar cruise control at all speeds
    1i) automatic collision avoidance at all speeds (Volvo etc.)
    1ii) Mercedes Brake Assist System with Cross Traffic Assist including braking to 0 mph/kmh
    2) front and rear parking sensors
    3) More cameras
    3i) Front camera (BMW etc.)
    3ii) 4-way surround camera (Leaf)
    4) electric folding mirrors
    5) first aid kit
    6) Lane Departure Warning
    6i) Automatic steering assist to keep in lane (Mercedes distronic plus steering assist & active lane keeping assistance etc)
    6ii) Crosswind Assist (Daimler)
    7) Adaptive Steering (BMW, etc. - Steering angle required to turn wheels changes according to vehicle speed)
    8) Lane Change Assist
    8i) Blind Spot Detection (Audi, etc)
    9) Automatic Self-Parking (Ford, Toyota, etc.)
    10) Hill-Hold Function
    11) valet mode with associated screen
    11i) valet key
    11ii) lent-car-to-my-teenage-kid mode
    12) user configurable speed limiter
    13) one-touch tesla connect button a la "OnStar" (GM)
    14) Heads Up Display (HUD)
    15) Bare Minimum Light/Night Panel (SAAB)
    16) Automatic Crash/Accident detection screen
    17) Automatic driver fatigue/sleep/distraction detection
    18) Remote controlled parking/driving within set distance and below factory-determined safe speeds (BYD, BMW future tech, etc.)
    19) Traffic sign recognition (VW Phaeton)
    20) Infrared Night Vision (Mercedes Night Assist, BMW, etc.)


    EV SPECIFIC
    1) On-board solar panel (Fisker, Toyata Prius, etc.)
    1i) Linked fan for interior & ambient temperature balancing (Toyota Prius i-Tech® Solar Ventilation System)
    2) Chademo support
    3) Wireless charging
    4) Hibernate / Sleep mode to cut vampire losses
    5) Quick select for regen level by means of additional stalk/paddle shift/pedal/other dedicated mechanically operated human input hardware outside of onboard screen (Cadillac ELR, Volt, Prius)


    TESLA MODEL S SPECIFIC
    1) Air-Conditioning vents for third row
    1i) Better sun protection for third row
    2) entertainment for third row
    3) mirror/video camera for driver to view third row
    4) large dedicated solid state hard drive to cache maps/route/other network based data in case car drives out of reception range / loses connection midway through a drive
    5) illuminated "T" on hood (mercedes)
    6) Electric Frunk (Motorized Closing/Opening)
    7) "Keep on without driver in seat" mode (Similar to leaving key in ACC position for legacy turn-key-to-start ICE vehicles)
    8) Option to automate air suspension height depending on GPS location (Example: Approaching Home - Automatically moves to "Very High" due to a known kerb/curb)
    9) Display Actual Tire Pressure Values
    10) Allow map orientation options "North Up" or "Track/Heading Up"
    11) Front & Rear Foglights
    12) Option for AWD
    13) "Larger" battery capacity in the same pack size (Increasing range)


    CUSTOMIS/ZATION & AFTERMARKET
    1) SDK for Developers (to create apps etc.)
    2) Access to all real-time vehicle performance/sensor data
    2i) Access & Ability to download vehicle logs/data
    2ii) Release OBDII protocol etc.
    3) Option for factory built-in dashcam
    4) User-configurable gauge display / custom gauges option


    FUTURE TECH

    1) Self-Driving Car (Google+Toyota Prius, VW Stanley)
    2) Full-windscreen laser-augmented heads-up display





    Feel free to post your own needs/wants and I'll try my best to keep this post updated.

    Note: Please post only things that are either wanted/needed by the majority or something that if changed/added does not affect others negatively.
    Good example: Creep mode was added. People who wanted it can turn it on. People who did not want it can leave it off.
    Bad example: Headliner material change. You may want/like a particular new material and want Tesla to change to your preferred material, but others may think that alcantara feels more premium and is a better fit for this car.
    This will NOT be added to the list since there is no clear majority consensus and a change may negatively affect others.
     
  2. deonb

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    * Adaptive steering (BMW Active Steer)
    * Infrared night vision display (Mercedes CL63 AMG Night View ASSIT)
    * 4-way surround camera (Leaf)
    * Driver profile link to Key Fob (BMW)
    * Blind spot detection (Audi)
    * Mode to keep services on while driver / key not present. (E.g. A/C). But car remain non-drivable.
    * Geo-fencing for air suspension level (similar to homelink)
    * Hibernate / Suspend / Sleep
    * Tire pressure display
    * 17" Map rotation to keep direction on top
     
  3. GSP

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    1) heated steering wheel (Leaf and many ICE cars)
    2) heated rear seats (Leaf and many ICE cars)
    3) paddle shifters for regen level (Cadillac ELR), or no regen in Drive with heavy regen in "L" or "B" (Volt, Prius)

    This is a good candidate for a wiki post.

    GSP
     
  4. eMileage

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    · User-configurable gauge display with custom gauges (like ScanGauge)
    · Access to real-time vehicle performance/sensor data including motor, inverter, coolant, battery temperatures, rpm, battery voltages, current, etc. (similar to ScanGauge programmable X-gauges)
    · Access and ability to download basic logs (energy consumption, trip data, etc.)
     
  5. Clint Eastwood

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    All I need are
    1. Ventilated seats
    2. Adjustable thigh support
    3. Better quality seats
    4. Apple/iPod integration

    everything else is unneeded by me and waste of money.
     
  6. Panacea

    Panacea TSLA Shareholder/Believer

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    Fog lights
    Longer sunshades with lighted mirrors
    I've heard others complain about a lack of a place to hang one's jacket/dry cleaning

    Still a most awesome car!
     
  7. evmile

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    I am reminded of "The Homer" where Homer Simpson wants everything and the car ends up costing too much. Screen shot 2013-06-16 at 6.29.20 PM.png

    I think a prioritized list of items might be useful as well as a laundry list.

    I would rank my list:

    1) Center console (which is coming).
    2) Chademo adapter at a reasonable price. (<$200)
    3) Power folding mirrors or cameras.
    4) Adaptive cruise control.

    BTW "The Homer" was $82,000.
     
  8. abasile

    abasile Independent Software Eng.

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    All Wheel Drive!

    In my case, this is mainly to appease the California Highway Patrol and Caltrans, which typically require snow chains on all 2WD vehicles in "winter" conditions in mountain areas, including where I live. We don't really need a Model X as opposed to a Model S; we just want a "no chains" pass.
     
  9. Trnsl8r

    Trnsl8r Blue 85kwh since 12/8/12

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    Only two requests from me, in honor of father's day:

    1. Ventilation for the rear facing seats, and better sun protection. (Honestly Tesla, duh... What were you thinking?)
    2. Non-recessed seat buckles for the back-seat. You have no idea how old it is getting to wrestle my son's booster seat in a position where I can squeeze down the seat buckle. On our old car the buckles were kind of laying on top of the seat attached by a short piece of belt, that made them more accessible and easier to buckle. And yes, my six-year old is not a fat-ass and I bought the most narrow (and safest) booster seat I could find.
     
  10. jak

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    Tesla or Model S development Kit. So we developers can write their own apps for the car (Waze integration, controls, etc)
     
  11. JohnQ

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    For number 2, try seat belt extenders. The first time I tried to buckle my girls in with boosters I ordered them. These are the rigid ones, flexible might have been better. 8" Rigid Car Seat Belt Extender 2-Pack (Type A) - Click & Go!
     
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  13. twinklejet

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    #13 twinklejet, Jun 17, 2013
    Last edited by a moderator: Mar 13, 2016
    -MEDIA ACCOMPANIED LIST BY CATEGORY-

    CREATURE COMFORTS/LUXURY/ENTERTAINMENT
    1) Cup holders/Side Pockets/Hand grips
    2) 4 zone climate control
    3) massaging seats (VW etc.)
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    3i) Adjustable thigh support / 18-or-more-way seat adjustment
    4) cooling seats with perforated leather (BMW, Mercedes, etc.)
    5) dedicated sunglass holders
    6) seat position synchronisation (Audi etc.)
    7) video available when not in motion (BMW etc.)
    8) seat back entertainment
    8i) blu ray player, etc.
    9) cooler/fridge compartment (Rolls etc.)
    10) television signal reception
    11) retractable blackout screens / sunshades on all side and back windows (Audi A8 etc.)
    11i) automate such blackout screens / sun screens
    12) Option to link specific driver profiles to specific keys (BMW, etc.)
    13) Rear center/centre console option that does not restrict usability of rear center/centre seat
    14) Heated Rear Seats
    15) Heated Steering Wheel
    16) Apple iDevice integration
    16i) iOS 7 Car Integration
    16ii) Hands-Free SIRI button / Integrate SIRI into voice recognition
    17) Retractable Coat Hangar
    18) Properly lighted mirrors (technically lighting your face not the mirror...)


    DRIVER ASSISTS/SAFETY
    1) dynamic(adaptive) radar cruise control at all speeds
    1i) automatic collision avoidance at all speeds (Volvo etc.)
    1ii) Mercedes Brake Assist System with Cross Traffic Assist including braking to 0 mph/kmh
    2) front and rear parking sensors
    3) More cameras
    3i) Front camera (BMW etc.)
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    3ii) 4-way surround camera (Leaf, Land Rover, etc.)
    surround-camera-system-in-2012-land-rover-range-rover-evoque_100365712_l.jpg
    4) electric folding mirrors
    5) first aid kit
    6) Lane Departure Warning
    6i) Automatic steering assist to keep in lane (Mercedes distronic plus steering assist & active lane keeping assistance etc)
    6ii) Crosswind Assist (Daimler)
    7) Adaptive Steering (BMW, etc. - Steering angle required to turn wheels changes according to vehicle speed)
    8) Lane Change Assist
    8i) Blind Spot Detection (Audi, etc)
    9) Automatic Self-Parking (Ford, Toyota, etc.)
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    10) Hill-Hold Function
    11) valet mode with associated screen
    11i) valet key
    11ii) lent-car-to-my-teenage-kid mode
    12) user configurable speed limiter
    13) one-touch tesla connect button a la "OnStar" (GM)
    14) Heads Up Display (HUD)

    15) Bare Minimum Light/Night Panel (SAAB)
    16) Automatic Crash/Accident detection screen
    17) Automatic driver fatigue/sleep/distraction detection
    18) Remote controlled parking/driving within set distance and below factory-determined safe speeds (BYD, BMW future tech, etc.)

    19) Traffic sign recognition (VW Phaeton)

    20) Infrared Night Vision (Mercedes Night Assist, BMW, etc.)


    EV SPECIFIC
    1) On-board solar panel (Fisker, Toyata Prius, etc.)
    1i) Linked fan for interior & ambient temperature balancing (Toyota Prius i-Tech® Solar Ventilation System)
    2) Chademo support
    3) Wireless charging
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    4) Hibernate / Sleep mode to cut vampire losses
    5) Quick select for regen level by means of additional stalk/paddle shift/pedal/other dedicated mechanically operated human input hardware outside of onboard screen (Cadillac ELR, Volt, Prius)


    TESLA MODEL S SPECIFIC
    1) Air-Conditioning vents for third row
    1i) Better sun protection for third row
    2) entertainment for third row
    3) mirror/video camera for driver to view third row
    4) large dedicated solid state hard drive to cache maps/route/other network based data in case car drives out of reception range / loses connection midway through a drive
    5) illuminated "T" on hood (mercedes)
    mercedes-benz-three-pointed-star-illuminated.jpg
    6) Electric Frunk (Motorized Closing/Opening)
    7) "Keep on without driver in seat" mode (Similar to leaving key in ACC position for legacy turn-key-to-start ICE vehicles)
    8) Option to automate air suspension height depending on GPS location (Example: Approaching Home - Automatically moves to "Very High" due to a known kerb/curb)
    9) Display Actual Tire Pressure Values
    10) Allow map orientation options "North Up" or "Track/Heading Up"
    11) Front & Rear Foglights
    12) Option for AWD
    13) "Larger" battery capacity in the same pack size (Increasing range)


    CUSTOMIS/ZATION & AFTERMARKET
    1) SDK for Developers (to create apps etc.)
    2) Access to all real-time vehicle performance/sensor data
    2i) Access & Ability to download vehicle logs/data
    2ii) Release OBDII protocol etc.
    3) Option for factory built-in dashcam
    4) User-configurable gauge display / custom gauges option


    FUTURE TECH

    1) Self-Driving Car (Google+Toyota Prius, VW Stanley)

    2) Full-windscreen laser-augmented heads-up display
     
  14. PeterK

    PeterK Model S Owner

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    +2!
     
  15. montgom626

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    Hibernate / Suspend / Sleep

    All I want is Hibernate / Suspend / Sleep
     
  16. twinklejet

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    List updated and reorganized.

    All valid requests prior to this post have been included.

    Exception is the non-recessed seat buckle - See post #11 (Seat belt extenders) - as that will require a fundamental design change and other owners might prefer a recessed design (no clear majority either way here) so this is a personal preference thing.
     
  17. ElSupreme

    ElSupreme Model S 03182

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    I would contend that many of the things on your consolidated list are 'personal preference things'.

    I know I couldn't care less about a lot of things on your list, and would actively dislike the addition of some of them.
     
  18. twinklejet

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    Yep. Read the note at the bottom of the first post though. They are all optional/selectable/etc. Let me know if you spot any that is not.

    For example, adding "creep" mode wouldn't affect you - you can just leave it off.

    However, changing all the recessed buckles to unrecessed buckles is something that is irreversible. You can't re-recess it.
    The alternative of them using the seat belt extender to extend it out of the recess ("unrecessing" it) would probably be more suitable as a compromise since you can extend something that's in a recess out of the hole but you can't stuff something in when there's no hole to stuff it anymore...
     
  19. kilpatds

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    I don't see a "touring/sport" selector listed? (In "sport" mode, the suspension would prefer to be lower, and if there's ever adaptive shocks, firmer. Any stability-correction software would back off a bit. The accelerator would be remapped to have more acceleration at lower deflection. Automatically invoke aggressive regen, etc. In "touring" mode, the accelerator would smooth out inputs to attempt to improve range. Adaptive shocks would be softer. Stability control/nanny mode would kick in much earlier)

    Limited slip differential would be a normal feature for a sporty car... (although I'd rather see them do something clever, perhaps by going to smaller motors so that they can put one in each wheel, and then just directly spin wheels faster when needed to improve turn-in and general cornering)
     
  20. twinklejet

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    Okay so what mode do you reckon Model S is in right now without any selector? (How would you describe the current mode that has been factory programmed?)

    I've long concluded that 40, 60, & standard 85kwh = touring cars whilst the P85 & P85+ = sport. Is that wrong?
     

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