Lol steering response too fast

[UncertainTimes]

Took a 90 degree right turn that I’ve taken almost everyday in my (BMW) M3 the last 3 years and cut it a bit too much in the Model 3. Curbed one of my pretty Performance wheels. Guess I should use Normal setting for steering haha.

 

[holmgang]

The Normal and Sport and Comfort setting are not about how fast or slow steering is*. It is only about the torque resistance of the wheel, controlled by electric motor. It is how "hard" it is to rotate the steering wheel.

The speed of the wheel has to do with the gear ratio. And yes, the Model 3 is geared too short. A small movement translate into big turn at the front wheels.

 

[jmaddr]

And yes, the Model 3 is geared too short.

I'll respectfully disagree. I absolutely LOVE how quick the steering is on the TM3. It could give a bit more feedback from the road, but I really like the chosen ratio.

It is only about the torque resistance of the wheel,

Is this really the case @holmgang ? In most cars, it's done through varying the power steering pump pressure. It would be interesting if Tesla choose to do this by modulating a wheel motor instead.

 

[holmgang]

Is this really the case @holmgang ? In most cars, it's done through varying the power steering pump pressure. It would be interesting if Tesla choose to do this by modulating a wheel motor instead.

it's EPS , not hydraulic, so no more pumps

 

[UncertainTimes]

Now that I think about it should I get my alignment checked. I wasn’t going that fast and honestly wasn’t that bad. Barely clipped the edge of the rim. Not even any rash on the tires that I could see.

 

[Sam1]

Now that I think about it should I get my alignment checked. I wasn’t going that fast and honestly wasn’t that bad. Barely clipped the edge of the rim. Not even any rash on the tires that I could see.

If it pulls in any direction, I would. If not, then no. The OEM wheels are so crappy, they take damage easily, and if that isn't even bad, the likelihood that the suspension/steering took any damage, is highly unlikely.

 

[UncertainTimes]

The Normal and Sport and Comfort setting are not about how fast or slow steering is*. It is only about the torque resistance of the wheel, controlled by electric motor. It is how "hard" it is to rotate the steering wheel.

The speed of the wheel has to do with the gear ratio. And yes, the Model 3 is geared too short. A small movement translate into big turn at the front wheels.

Yea the steering feels almost unnatural. Doesn’t seem to be speed sensitive either. It’s taking some getting used coming from driving BMWs for so long.

 

[holmgang]

Yea the steering feels almost unnatural. Doesn’t seem to be speed sensitive either. It’s taking some getting used coming from driving BMWs for so long.

Yes. I dont like steering wheel trickery but the BMW variable sports steering is really effective.

on both cars i dont like the comfort setting because its wayyy too feathery light. on the tesla its especially bad at highway speed because the ratio of the steering and you can get the car to change direction too easily with fingertip effort.

 

[LACALawyer]

No, no....you should use whatever steering you want and just not run into a curb, you know, like the rest of us manage to do.

 

[UncertainTimes]

No, no....you should use whatever steering you want and just not run into a curb, you know, like the rest of us manage to do.

oh ok <broadly gestures to the billion threads asking about wheel repair and touch up paint>

 

[lbowroom]

People manage to curb wheels on every brand of car.

 

[Mash]

Coming from Germans and JDM, steering ratio on Model 3 makes it much more fun to drive, but it's harder to maintain it precise at speed.

 

[RedStealth]

I personally love the steering feel of the Model3. It's very precise and goes fast in the direction I point it at.

Drove the wife's Lexus NX300 and it felt so sloppy and all over the place compared to the Tesla.

 

[holmgang]

I personally love the steering feel of the Model3. It's very precise and goes fast in the direction I point it at.

Drove the wife's Lexus NX300 and it felt so sloppy and all over the place compared to the Tesla.

CUV vs sports sedan....

 

[MountainPass]

The ratio is definitely a little fast, especially when on the racetrack. Making small inputs at high speeds is a bit sketchy.

 

[UncertainTimes]

The ratio is definitely a little fast, especially when on the racetrack. Making small inputs at high speeds is a bit sketchy.

Yea I can imagine. I wasn’t even going that fast. Just a sharp right hand turn on to a narrow road. I’ve taken that turn hundreds of times. Have to adjust my muscle memory I guess.

 

[Mr X]

Sport setting helps with that. But I enjoy how quick the Standard steering is. It's like go kart steering

Coming from Germans and JDM, steering ratio on Model 3 makes it much more fun to drive, but it's harder to maintain it precise at speed.

True, but that's when you flip on Autopilot

 

[Mash]

The ratio is definitely a little fast, especially when on the racetrack. Making small inputs at high speeds is a bit sketchy.

And with your control arm bushing it becomes so unfiltered that I'm finding myself correcting accidental turns which I do on every bump. It's still fun, but I need now seats with better support so I don't hold myself by the steering wheel.

 

[Occhis]

The speed of the wheel has to do with the gear ratio. And yes, the Model 3 is geared too short. A small movement translate into big turn at the front wheels.

Agreed. I believe this short gearing is at least partially responsible for passengers getting car sick more often in M3 than in other cars.

 

[Dolemite]

I don’t think I’ve ever driven a road car with a quicker steering ratio than this one. I also put mine into a curb when it had less than 1K miles. It’s also insanely wide and the rims come out far past the tire on the OEM 18s.