Tried the P100D Raven , wow what a nice car compared with a Model 3. I was impressed by the air suspension how it absorbed all the bumps even on sport setting without any drama, even with the 21” wheels mounted. The model 3 feels like a noisy gocart compared with the S. Anyway the sales guy dissapointed me when he said deliveries are pushed to March. Now I have two options, I found S75d from 2017 at good prices , interior seems the same just without the upgrades from Raven. How much the upgraded air suspension is noticeable?
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Long Range Plus 2021 vs Model 3 LR AWD
- Thread starter vladmury
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exactly.....I have both a M3 and a MS (2019/2020)....you are dead on about efficiency....I rode in my brother-in-laws brand new MX last night.....WOW....great car....the seat in my opinion are better than the MS.....I have the Cyber Truck on order (tri-motor) because of the range.....if the dual motor was higher I would get that.....if I decide not to get the truck, the MX is what I would get....in 2 years, I think the MX may have a little better range.
popgodazipa
Member
You'll definitely need those updated tail lights to find you rear bumper after it flies off from driving through a small puddle.
Are you insinuating that the Model S/X do not have quality issues? I think most people would laugh at that including me as a 3 year Model X owner.
I was at the tesla center yesterday just to take a look at colors and whatnot and was surprised to see all the new 2021 S's sitting there on a summer tire being delivered in a snow state in November. Tesla is going to make some snow tire believers out of some owners lol
How was the 2021 S? Good build quality or looking a bit rushed? Any noticable difference or just the 2021 sticker?
popgodazipa
Member
Of course not. All car makers have quality issues but what we are seeing from the M3 and Y are on another level. I can't speak to the X, just never really considered it but its a beauty. If we are advising the OP on a 3 vs a S it really is no contest based on quality of build and other points already mentioned. Would you not agree?
I'd say it looked about the same as all the other post-raven refresh models I've seen - that is to say, nothing jumps out, but if you zoom in, I'm sure there's plenty to complain about
One thing I haven’t seen a lot of discussion around is the target market for these cars. M3 was designed to get the price down, essentially try and introduce an ‘economy’ version of a luxury brand. Which takes me to the S\X... these are pure luxury cars. Bigger, quieter, and more expensive.
Note: this isn’t to say one is better or worse, just different. See Honda Civic v Honda Accord for details. Or, BMW 2 series versus 5 series... different strokes for different folks.
Note: this isn’t to say one is better or worse, just different. See Honda Civic v Honda Accord for details. Or, BMW 2 series versus 5 series... different strokes for different folks.
umair239
Member
noooooo it’s subjective. Want the smaller, easier to park, sportier car? Get the 3. Want the larger, more luxury and traditional car? Get the S.
Which is better depends on what you value.
Leeclanual
Member
Yes, it’s been standard on all Model S for several years. In 2019 it was updated to be adaptive to road conditions and your driving style. I’ve driven cars with and without this and it’s a massive improvement. Definitely recommend the air for the best ride and handling.
