MitchJi
Trying to learn kindness, patience & forgiveness
Hi,
My LT ER-CC thoughts:
Stationary storage:
IMO the number above is not important beyond giving us a rough idea of the expected scale, because they believe (based on the huge response, the knowledge that their SS products are very high quality and are priced disruptively) that they will be able to sell as many units as they can produce for the foreseeable future.
My LT ER-CC thoughts:
EM's statements above, combined with his decision to be more cautious about announcing schedules indicates that the design of the M3 is close to complete, and they have already taken and are currently taking steps to derisk potential M3 ramp issues.CC-about 55 minutes said:Question:....with what you've gone through over the past few years in bringing this car to market, does this change your thinking at all over the longer term when you think about the pace that you will bring M3 to market....?
EM:
still aiming to have M3 in about 2 years, so but I think the cadence of future products should improve, as we have more resources to shorten the critical path on things like I was mentioning earlier like stamping tools and molding dies, the things that tend to drive our schedule, because from the time a car is designed it can take almost 2 years to get fully tooled up, that seems like a crazy amount of time to us and we want to try to reduce that significantly.
Stationary storage:
Exactly like their cars!CC-JB:..still see a lot of technical differentiation - plug-n-play etc...
CC said:We are growing our worldwide Tesla Energy sales team and are continuing to sign new business partnerships with utilities and energy companies
Can anyone understand the number, it sounded like $2.5B?CC ~5 minutes said:Question:SS still trending toward your target of (2?).5 billion by 2017?
EM-Reply: even if only a small fraction are valid we are sold out through 2016 and be well into 2017. So it's really mostly about predicting our production rate... we expect very dramatic increases in the SS production...
IMO the number above is not important beyond giving us a rough idea of the expected scale, because they believe (based on the huge response, the knowledge that their SS products are very high quality and are priced disruptively) that they will be able to sell as many units as they can produce for the foreseeable future.
I'm paraphrasing here, but I found this tidbit excellent info to all the naysayers who say "but have you seen XXX battery tech?!":
"We track every battery tech lab in the world. All the people inventing battery tech know that Tesla will be their biggest customer [if they succeed in improving materially on what we currently use]. We are currently tracking about 60 labs, and we rate them from 1 to 5, with 5 being we should be doing business with them now, 4 being we should consider preliminary discussions, and 1 being complete B.S. We currently have a few 3's out there, but no 4's or 5's."
- Elon Musk, Baron Investment Conference, November 6, 2015
EM-CC-Replies to a question about GM reported cell cost of $145:
Their pack prices are much lower than almost everyone, even here in the TMC Investment Forum realizes. I have even been asked to not post my opinions (which are the results of careful analysis) on this topic. I believe that within 3-5 years their cost for 250 mile range EV drive-trains will be less than for ice engines with transmissions.EM: We are constantly agonizing about cell cost and pack cost and we don't think anyone is on a path to be even close to us. if they are I will be the first to congratulate them.
That's an important step, yielding at least a 5% reduction in pack prices.ER said:In early Q4, we relocated production from Fremont to an automated assembly line at the Gigafactory.
I believe that a major reason that these signings were made public was to help these companies procure funding in order to ramp production. An example of taking forward looking, clever, low cost steps to insure future supplies of a critical resource.ER said:In conjunction with development of the Gigafactory, we recently signed two conditional purchase orders for lithium hydroxide in order to promote sourcing of this commodity at lower cost and with reduced environmental impact.
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