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Blog Lucid Air Makes Debut, Deliveries Planned for Spring 2021

Discussion in 'Electric Vehicles' started by TMC Staff, Sep 10, 2020.

  1. BlindPass

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    I don’t think you could be more wrong.

    Do you remember the Roadster and S? Tesla didn’t start with lower prices or value.

    The first product is about branding. Start with leading performance and low-volume aspirational models, then move to value shoppers. Being too expensive for most buyers is very effective marketing.

    Early MS owners paid $120k for a 200 mile S that accelerated worse than its ICE competition and luxury that would make Kia laugh. Lucid at $130k, and below, is a relative bargain- better than ICE and what we know of Tesla. Perhaps Tesla improves specs and luxury, but likely resulting in price increases.
     
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    I can see that as part of long term strategy. Tesla/Elon did announce that luxury-> value model early on though (why I waited 3 years for the SR 3)

    I guess Lucid might not want to be a mass-market EV maker, a la Fiskar?
     
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    Yes low volume due to demand, not supply-constrained like Tesla :)
     
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    #46 Watts_Up, Sep 20, 2020
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    @T3SLAROD I'm sorry, but what the point to put a link call "Unplugged Performance" ?

    Can you elaborate a little bit?

    From what I can read, someone (who don't give a name, or role involvement with UP) congratulate Lucid for a 1:33 (unofficial yet I believe)
    EV lap record at Laguna Seca with their 1,200 hp tri-motor still prototype compare to 1:35 with a 400 hp dual-motor Model 3P.

    - There is not too much information about the Lucid prototype, in particular does a 120 kWh battery was used?

    - In contrast (I believe) the Model 3P is quite standard with only beef-up tires, brakes, and suspension, and original 75 kWh battery.

    It would be certainly more interesting to compare the (possible ?) future Model S tri-motors
    or the (expected ?) Rimac Concept 2 1,400 hp $1.2 million super-car.

    Note: One of the comments mention the 2012 lap record of 1:32 with a Kleenspeed EV-X11.
     
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    @BlindPass I'm sorry but what didn't you like and put a 'Disagree' on the above answer #46, just curious?
     
  8. T3SLAROD

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    It’s a Lucid thread. Lucid is also showing they are capable of getting the car on the track. The Model 3 and this Lucid are Apples and Oranges.

    Why are you offended that I put up a link about Lucid racing in a Lucid thread? I don’t get it.
     
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    It’s interesting that a car that has more than 2.5 the power of Unplugged car and 3 motors only beat it by 2 seconds. I think natural completion by Tesla and UP will come out of this...whether it’s with the 3 or a race car plaid model
     
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    I think UP is going to get into the Lucid market too, thats why I posted it in the first place. 2 Seconds is a long time.
     
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    Not that interesting in lap times.The UP M3 driven by Pobst beat Tesla’s 3-motor Model S.

    For Lucid’s tri-motor to already beat the UP M3P by 2 seconds and the Plaid by 3 seconds is significant. I wonder what UP and Pobst could post in a Lucid tri-motor?
     
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    Model S tri-motor announced with 520mi range, ~9s 1/4mi, and 1:30 at Laguna Seca. Slightly beats the Lucid Air Dream Edition.

    On a side note, the Lucid prototype running 1:33 at Laguna Seca is rumored to be an unannounced tri-motor, but there's no evidence it's anything other than a regular Dream Edition.
     
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    #55 Watts_Up, Sep 23, 2020
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    I wish there was more information about the tri-motors, batteries, suspension, brakes, body modifications or additional spoiler.

    All the Tesla Model S versions look identical, so no beefed up rear quarter panel for the two motors and larger wheels?

    Looking at Sebastian Vittel Youtube channel, I only noticed:

    Tire : michelin sport cup 2 with specific gum that will be available when car will be released Very similar to Cup 2 R tire.
    Seat: bucket seat for my security only.

    I can't wait for the Nürburgring !!!

    Tesla MODEL S PLAID 1100HP record lap Laguna SECA

     
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    I have a phone appointment with a Lucid sales agent next week. There are still a lot of unanswered questions such as service and warranty but the vehicle looks great imo. I’m tempted to put down a reservation.

    I would prefer Tesla of course but I’m just finding it more and more difficult to deal with the poor service. It’s just getting worse and worse. Now the new thing seems to be pushing people to pay for warranty repairs.
     
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    Elon claimed S Plaid can do under 9s 1/4 mi, there is no video evidence to prove that. The 520 mile range claim is a joke because it is obvious that is a response to Lucid 517 mile. Again, there is no evidence Plaid achieved 520 mile, only Elon's claim. We know how robotaxis and FSD promises turned out. Well, Tesla has over a year to make it work. Lucid is not sitting still either. They will keep one upping each other.
     
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