I don't understand the negativity. The more EVs on the market the better! The Lucid Air will be a true luxury EV.
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Lucid Releases Video Foreshadowing Air's Crazy 1/4-Mile Acceleration
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A relic from when Tesla was the sole flag bearer for EV. It’s so ingrained that protecting Tesla is defending the greater good of EVs, that we now regurgitate the same qualms once lobbied at Tesla
uujjj2
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The traditional automakers' EVs, many of them, have been disappointments. And of the first wave of EV startups (Think, Zap, Coda, Wheego, Aptera, Fisker) all but Tesla failed. So there's a lot of historical reason to be skeptical of non-Tesla EVs.
But there's a huge difference between an early EV startup like Wheego and current startups like Lucid and Rivian. The failures of 2nd rate operators like Zap and Coda tell you nothing about Rivian's prospects. That Aptera was vaporware doesn't mean Lucid is vaporware. Keep an open mind and don't dismiss all non-Tesla EVs out of hand.
The Lucid wasn't production weight. You can see it in the video. There is no frunk, no door panels, no air bag, no rear window deck and possible more so who knows how much weight was reduced. Every 100 lb. weight reduction equals a tenth reduction in the 1/4 mile. The 144 mph shows the horsepower which is awesome for a 4 door car.
Brando
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There is an idea - 3 way comparison LUCID Air Dream Edition with the 2012 Model S and the 2021 Model S Plaid.
thesmokingman
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Is that going even to matter with a 500+ mile range? I could drive from San Diego to LA and back and still have 50% range left over.
thesmokingman
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Hmm, that thing looks totally stripped. Look at the race wheel, they're getting pretty serious with the strippage.
I'd really like to see a production Dream run some numbers. These track prepped numbers are apples to oranges.
El joe
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If that’s your only use case, then probably not. A lot of us probably have loftier travel goals though. :/
thesmokingman
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Dude, seriously? You could drive from LA to San Fran in a straight shot. Not even many ICE cars can do this let alone an EV. The massive range reduces it's dependance on charging networks, the end.
i get this...tesla has a great infastructure...i am suprised no other company uses teslas same charging tech(paying tesla to use it) so they can use teslas network? Lucid/porsche/ audi...dont have networks..but yea most drive 200 miles a day max total if even that and charge at home .
thesmokingman
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Tesla will open access to their network eventually. They'll have to to get access to the renewal of subsidies.
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mtndrew1
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I’m happy that Lucid isn’t vaporware like so many other EV startups. They seem to have some truly novel engineering and unlike many others aren’t just cramming in a huge battery to overcome inefficiency.
What the market is for an additional $100k EV sedan from an unknown company is another matter. In any event I hope they succeed.
What the market is for an additional $100k EV sedan from an unknown company is another matter. In any event I hope they succeed.
And then where will you recharge when you get to San Fran? I've been holding off driving to see my mom outside of Philly because there's nowhere to charge near her. But Tesla is building a supercharger station about 2 miles away from her retirement community, so I can finally stop flying. Same with the beach and the mountains - we take our ICE SUV because there's nowhere to charge unless we rent a house that allows us to plug in.
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