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Luder94's Sales, Ordering, and Delivery Experience

Discussion in 'Model S: Ordering, Production, Delivery' started by Luder94, Jun 10, 2013.

  1. Luder94

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    #1 Luder94, Jun 10, 2013
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    I'm posting because I'm a car nut, impatient, excited and just need to have a release. I may as well share my 'release' with TMC members!

    About 1.5 months ago, I saw a Model S at a charity event. I wasn't overall too excited about the car. I knew a little here and there about it, but not much. I thought, "Hey, what a handsome car; sort of looks like Jaguar from the back, a Panamera from certain angles, and hey, it's all electric.....what a nice gimmick."

    After I got home, I looked it up on line....found this site. I lurked and read up what you all had written....what some of the magazines had written (Motor Trend was the big one).

    Sales Experience I got on Tesla's site and requested a test drive....the next day a sales rep reached out to me and made an appointment for a test drive. When I got to the store, I still wasn't overly excited about this car. Sales advisor took some information from me, and about 10 minutes later we were in the car (Model S 85kWh). He began showing me the bells and whistles....and then were off. I didn't talk much 10 minutes into the test drive. I was trying to figure out the gimmick. Soon enough, the sales advisor had me talking up what I do for a living and other stuff. In driving, I forgot about driving the Model S. We were busy talking about everything else. He directed me to a highway with a short on-ramp....wouldn't you know it, a semi was barreling down the lane I was about to merge in....I hit the gas.....errrr, I hit the go-fast pedal. BOY, did it GO-FAST!!!

    I was speechless the rest of the ride (if you know me, that's damn near impossible). We got back to the Tesla store and the sales advisor asked me to schedule another test drive so that I could bring my wife; scheduled for two weeks later. In the two weeks, I was percolating with excitement. I configured and re-configured the car I was hoping to order....different colors, options, etc. So the time came for the second test drive. My wife did the driving. After about 30 minutes into the drive, she cut it short and didn't say another word. When we walked back into the store, I went to thank and shake the sales advisor's hand thinking that we were done and this was not a car we were going to buy. My wife, surprisingly, went to the wall and started picking out interior options and asking if I REALLY like black THAT much because she liked the Pearl White a lot. Color me pleasantly surprised!

    Ordering We sat down at design the 'nook', configured our car (*see my signature), and plopped down a $2500 down payment. This was another surprise, I was ready to make a $5000 down payment, but apparently that day, Tesla changed how much they required to put down. I kid you not, we had the car ordered and an order sheet in our hands within 10 minutes of beginning configuration. I've spent more time at a traditional dealership telling the dealer that I was a specific car in inventory....no joke, I've pointed out an actual car in a new car warehouse and took the dealer more than 20 minutes to 'find' it in the system so that he could pull it out for more un-needed inspection. This was on 5/27 and was given an expectation for delivery between 6/24 and 'early July'.

    --That's all I have to say about that-- <--Again, if you know me, that's unheard of. I have a lot to say about everything. :D

    Delivery So I thought I was done and all I had to do was wait. Well, I got an email a couple of days ago saying that I have until the 9th to confirm my configuration. I didn't know what this was, so I turned to this forum. I saw that a few folks 'finalized' their orders and then were given a true delivery date range via email (I'm assuming by their Delivery Specialists). I panicked and thought that this non-finalizing my order may have pushed my delivery to much later in the summer. As of today, I got a configuration 'confirmation' email from Tesla. I checked MyTesla profile and see that I have a VIN assigned. I spoke with my Delivery Specialist today and he let me know that my car is in pre-production and will go to line in about a week (could be a day, could be end of a 7 day week). He said he'd call once he sees my car go into production.

    Edit 6/12: Just got an email regarding Tesla financing/loan application. Also got an inquiry asking whether or not I'll have a trade-in. No other information was given.....so I'm left assuming that this is a 'step' in the process of my car going into production soon?

    .....I know there's more to delivery experience than this, I'll update as I get 'touched' by Tesla throughout this process.


    Edit 6/19: Woohooo!!!! Delivery button is activated today! July 16-19th delivery range. Hoping it changes to the first week of July...which is the original tail end of my delivery range expectation set when I ordered the car.

    Edit 6/26: HPWC delivered today. DS just emailed me today asking me to call Tesla corporate to find out about HPWC since he doesn't know. Yet, wife says it was delivered today.

    Sentiments I'm excited like a little school girl about to get a pony for her birthday. This car is for my wife and not me....but really it's for me.
     
  2. spleen

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    Congrats, nice configuration! One thing that I'd like to raise a question about (and you may have already considered) - do you really need the HPWC? Most people do just fine with the included UMC.
     
  3. Luder94

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    I jumped into this with both feet without looking....I tend to do that with cars unfortunately. I did not consider doing with just the UMC. Sales advisor suggested that I'd like the HPWC and went with it. I figured that it'd look nice on the wall, it'd be one less thing for the wife to pull out of the trunk of the car to plug in when she parks the car, and less use on the UMC so that it's less likely to fail when we need the UMC the most.

    However, saving $1200 would be nice....I wonder how long I have to decide to take the wall-charger out of my order. Does anyone know if there's an aftermarket (non-Tesla) wall mounted charger for less money?
     
  4. Johan

    Johan Took a TSLA bear test. Came back negative.

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    "It's for my wife... But really it's for me" Classic! Been there done that :)
     
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    Ahh yes, the gift that keeps on giving... :)
     
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    Luder94, since you bought the twin chargers, you might as well have the HPWC and use a full 100 amp circuit so you can recharge at 240 volts and 80 amps.
     
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    A lot of us just keep the UMC plugged into the NEMA 14-50 outlet that we had installed into our garages 24/7. The cord is kept coiled up on a cord hanger (like a manual garden hose hanger). It's not quite as aesthetically pleasing as the HPWC but then again, it's not $1200 either. Given the range of the P85, you're unlikely to have to use the UMC outside of your garage except on road trips (Superchargers won't need it, the typical EV "charger" seen in the wild won't need it too (just the J1772 adapter which is separate)). If you'd really rather keep an UMC in the car for range anxiety sake, a 2nd UMC can be bought from Tesla for $650, which is close to 1/2 the cost of the HPWC. Nearly everyone will be able to recharge their daily usage of battery power overnight by charging off an UMC.

    There are really two main use cases for the HPWC. One is aesthetics where the look of the HPWC is most important in terms of keeping the garage looking nice. The other is frequent high speed charging where you anticipate many occasions where you might go for a very long drive nearly depleting the battery, coming home, and going out again in a few hours on another extended drive. If you fit either (or both) of these use cases, then the HPWC is for you. Otherwise, consider saving the money and spending it on something else (like buying Tesla stock), lol.
     
  9. Luder94

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    Trust me, I'm trying to come up with a custom plate on the Model S too. BTW, here's her weekend car I built her a few years back: Flint Mica (dark grey) is mine, red one is hers (but really mine):

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    Here's her plate:

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    Plate can be taken two different ways: First is obvious....second one is a play on two words with "Desi" being the first word, and "Red" as the second (We are Indian, btw).

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    Right now, I'm in the camp of "keeping the garage looking nice" right now.....I may seriously have to reconsider the HPWC. Although, if I were to get it now, I'm assuming the cost of it is rolled into the price of the car so that when I get financing, the HPWC is financed along with the car. I've got at least a week or two to decide.
     
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    Hey Luder - great story and if you're in IL we'd love to have you join our local club. Tesla Owners Illinois - if you haven't already. It's always exciting with Tesla!
     
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    Luder, I did the same thing on the HPWC. From what I read, I probably won't need it. But I also probably didn't need the pano or the 21s either. Still, how do you pass on a charger that is twice as fast (with 100amp?). Just one less thing to worry about on those 1-2 weekends/yr when you do actually do some serious driving.
     
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    elecblue, helps if you give him our link! :)
     
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    Luder, i am in the camp of the UMC at 40 amps being more than enough at home. There is really never a scenario where you need fast charging at home. How often do you arrive home after a 250 mile drive and then need to leave again real soon?

    You are more likely to arrive home after a 25-75 miles of driving, then plugin. At 40 amps your car is almost full after 1-2 hours each day.

    40 amps is enough. I didn't get the HPWC. Realistically you will never need 80 amps at home. Superchargers will be what you use for long trips and they don't require twin chargers.
     
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    I'm still contemplating on maybe taking out the HPWC from my order. However, I know everytime I get into the wife's car to take it somewhere (or when we go out on the weekends with the kids), the car is always near empty on gas. I don't see my wife changing too much behavior with the Model S....she'll still get out of the car carrying her laptop bag, her purse-bag, and her gym bag. She'll walk into the house, drop everything and not plug the car in. The car will get driven all week without getting charged and then either Friday night or Saturday afternoon when we have to drive 50 miles out, the car will need a charge. The HPWC could come in handy there....or in the dead of Chicago winter where we're not sure how many miles a charge will last us.

    I also plan to offer up quick charges for other Model S owners that get into a bind on the road and are too far away to get into the city from northern IL.

    The other thought is that even if we don't end up using the HPWC at home, I can have it installed at her office.
     
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    Thanks for the posts about your experience. One thing to consider about charging at 80 amps is the main service at your residence may require an upgrade. Before I moved I had a Blink charger installed for my Volt. I made sure the new 240 volt wiring was adequate for 40 amp service since the Blink is rated at 30 amps. In the permitting process the inspector required a load analysis. This required an upgrade from a 150 to 200 amp service. I am not sure what the inspector would have required for a HPWC.

    I still have the Blink charger and will continue to use it for charging the Volt. The HPWC will not work for the Volt. I have resigned myself to using the Blink also for the Tesla that will be delivered shortly. I will probably be disappointed for not having the dual charger and the HPWC, but a further upgrade will be expensive at my new high rise residence. When I purchased my new residence I was only looking to accommodate the Volt since I hadn't thought about buying a Tesla.
     
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    I opted to get the twin chargers in the car (to future proof) but did not get the HPWC. I think the UMC will be enough for now. If we end up getting a Model X for my wife, will have to decide between getting a HPWC or putting in a second 14-50 outlet.
     
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    That will only happen one time. Running out of energy will be memorable.
    After that she will remember to plugin just like she plugs in here cell phone.
     
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    The third use case is if your utility offers a discounted rate for charging between specific off-peak periods, you may want the faster charge rate that twin chargers and an HPWC provides to be able to maximize the charge you can complete during the window. My utility offers a significant discount (05c per kWh vs 11c per kWh) for charging between 1-5am, a 4 hour window. If you go do the math, you will discover that it takes a long time to pay back the additional cost of the HPWC and twin chargers with a savings of 06c per kWh. For me, I looked at it from a marginal cost basis: 1) I wanted twin chargers for 40A+ chargers in the wild and 2) I wanted a second EVSE for home so that I could keep the mobile unit in my car. When I removed the cost of the twin chargers, and only used the difference in cost between the HPWC and the UMC, it made sense for me. If your utility doesn't offer a TOU (time of use) plan then this may not make sense to you. Conversely, if they do, and the difference between your standard rate and the discounted rate is more than mine, it will make financial sense to jump to the HPWC sooner.

    The charging rate 40A provides is enough for most people. When you're on a road trip, however, the charging rate is everything. So if you think you're going to be doing lots of road trips, it's a small investment. $1500 from the factory. $3k+ as a retrofit.

    YMMV.

    Andrew
     
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    Original post edited for new/next step.
     
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    For comparison, I received the same emails (finance and trade-in) on May 28 and was told today that my car is on track and will not have a problem with my 6/21 delivery (delivery window was 6/17-7/1). Hopefully that means you are about 3 weeks away.
     

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