M3 AP cameras in snow

[Waiting4M3]

Fro FB M3 group
Stephen Pineau

 

[run-the-joules]

Clever girl.

 

[Saghost]

Interesting. So apparently they're heated when needed even if the car is "off". At least that means driver assistance features will be available immediately even in bad weather.

 

[Waiting4M3]

Also the 19" snow chains are now on Tesla website:
Model 3 Snow Chain - 19" Pewag RS 77

 

[internalaudit]

Would love to know what ranges people are going to get in the winter. So the M3 is more efficient in the city than in the highway because of the permanent magnet motor?

That winter range will be a deciding factor whether to go LR or cheapen out and go with a SR.

 

[run-the-joules]

Also the 19" snow chains are now on Tesla website:
Model 3 Snow Chain - 19" Pewag RS 77

Has there been a confirmation if they’re going to offer for the 18s? That’s difficult to search for due to string length

 

[Waiting4M3]

Has there been a confirmation if they’re going to offer for the 18s? That’s difficult to search for due to string length

Sorry I don't know but I'd be shocked if Tesla or 3rd party wouldn't make it for some car that will sell in 100s of thousands.

 

[run-the-joules]

Sorry I don't know but I'd be shocked if Tesla or 3rd party wouldn't make it for some car that will sell in 100s of thousands.

Yeah I have no doubt there’ll be a third party option, I just prefer to buy something manufacturer-approved, presumably because I’m an idiot who likes overpaying.

 

[RedTesY]

Before you pay $450 for Tesla tire chains, check out AutoSocks on Amazon and Youtube. They are legal alternatives to tire chains in most states. They work great on my RWD 2013 Model S! Less expensive, easy to put on and take off, no risk of body damage.

 

[03DSG]

Fro FB M3 group
Stephen Pineau

I would imagine the cameras are heated in conjunction with pre-conditioning the cabin and battery with heat. If we could see the rear window we would know if it’s in conjunction with the rear window/mirror defrost.

 

[run-the-joules]

Before you pay $450 for Tesla tire chains, check out AutoSocks on Amazon and Youtube. They are legal alternatives to tire chains in most states. They work great on my RWD 2013 Model S! Less expensive, easy to put on and take off, no risk of body damage.

Interesting. Thank you!

 

[tashtibet]

more importantly I/many want to know how RWD performs in the snow since RWD is the only model 3 available now.

 

[DarthPierce]

Before you pay $450 for Tesla tire chains, check out AutoSocks on Amazon and Youtube. They are legal alternatives to tire chains in most states. They work great on my RWD 2013 Model S! Less expensive, easy to put on and take off, no risk of body damage.

Thanks for pointing these out - it's an interesting product I'd never heard of before.... One note though, is that $450 is a pretty huge overstatement at least for the model 3 chains. Tesla's selling them at $115/ pair as opposed to the socks which are $99/pair all for the same size.

 

[Thorbjorn]

What about the radar ? Doesn't help if the cameras are defrosted if the radar gets disabled by a little snow, like on S and X

 

[ItsNotAboutTheMoney]

Would love to know what ranges people are going to get in the winter. So the M3 is more efficient in the city than in the highway because of the permanent magnet motor?

That winter range will be a deciding factor whether to go LR or cheapen out and go with a SR.

In EPA (well, in this case fudged CAFE) terms "In the city" means "Relatively low speed with a lot of acceleration and deceleration". The stop-and-go cycles emphasizes the effect of weight.

The weight reduction is the big deal.

 

[voip-ninja]

Thanks for pointing these out - it's an interesting product I'd never heard of before.... One note though, is that $450 is a pretty huge overstatement at least for the model 3 chains. Tesla's selling them at $115/ pair as opposed to the socks which are $99/pair all for the same size.

The primary advantage of auto socks is the ease with which they can be applied.

They are not as robust as heavy traditional chains but you can put them in in literally a couple of minutes at the most. They probably won't last as long as traditional chains and they are rated for no more than 35 mph on snow & ice (similar to traditional chains but many go faster than that with traditional chains).

I'd view the auto socks as a "just in case" thing for someone who might get caught in the rare situation they need them... not for someone who needs them for weekly ski trips.

 

[run-the-joules]

The primary advantage of auto socks is the ease with which they can be applied.

They are not as robust as heavy traditional chains but you can put them in in literally a couple of minutes at the most. They probably won't last as long as traditional chains and they are rated for no more than 35 mph on snow & ice (similar to traditional chains but many go faster than that with traditional chains).

I'd view the auto socks as a "just in case" thing for someone who might get caught in the rare situation they need them... not for someone who needs them for weekly ski trips.

For me the presence of them in the trunk will be purely for compliance reasons. If they make me put them on, I will pull back over and take them off once I'm out of sight so I'm not too worried about lifespan

 

[Erik100]

For me the presence of them in the trunk will be purely for compliance reasons. If they make me put them on, I will pull back over and take them off once I'm out of sight so I'm not too worried about lifespan

So you are really rich?
A mere mortal like me needs his insurance to pay up when something goes wrong....

 

[Mjølner]

Interesting. So apparently they're heated when needed even if the car is "off". At least that means driver assistance features will be available immediately even in bad weather.

Heat is generated when the camera records. Would assume it records all the time??

 

[lunitiks]

The news here appears to be the B-pillar camera heating.

I don't think Model S / X has that, at least not that I've seen any evidence of...