Welcome to Tesla Motors Club
Discuss Tesla's Model S, Model 3, Model X, Model Y, Cybertruck, Roadster and More.
Register

M3 delivery / MS return: Comparing the two, driving, + ceramic coating

FrunkLover

Member
Apr 28, 2020
37
14
Queens, New York
Hi all - I don't have anything too novel to comment on but wanted to share a few of my experiences this week in case it helps the community make any decisions in the future.

Quick background is that I just returned my 2017 Model S. Its lease was up and I posted previously about my dilemma on whether to buy out the S or update to a 3.

As you can see based on the location of this post, I went the M3 route and am very pleasantly surprised by it so far. I was concerned about quality of materials, quality of build, lack of instrument cluster, size, lack of opening moonroof, lack of my unlimited premium connectivity and supercharging, to name a few.

To keep it short, the drive quality, quality of build, and overall design have blown me away. I am extremely pleased by
  • how solid the car feels, from shutting the doors to the excellent steering response (and steering wheel, which was another concern of mine)
  • panel gaps are at an absolute minimum
  • doors are - from what I can tell - 100% aligned, which I don't even see on other new M3s (maybe I just got lucky!)
  • view out the front, which is feels unimpaired vs. the S -- overall visibility is excellent, with the exception of rear view, which seems a bit more limited
  • steering response, feels tight, particularly with lighter weight
Some other observations:
  • I do miss the air suspension of the S so far, in New York City I am feeling a lot more bumps -- I am hoping driving response will make up for it
  • phone key capability working very well so far
  • enjoying updated wireless charging + USB C ports
  • charging port door + charging light don't look as good as the S setup
  • installed Tesla's carbon fiber caps on my 19" sport wheels to distinguish it a bit, which look much better on the car than when I first opened the delivery box
  • smaller trunk is noticeable
  • smaller rear legroom is noticeable
  • I will miss automated lane changes as part of my EAP package, but was/am unwilling to pay for FSD right now -- autopilot will do just fine
Delivery and returning my S:
  • there was quite a bit of back-and-forth trying to schedule my lease return and the date I took delivery of the 3
  • Tesla apparently has a strict policy to offload the car within 72 hours of its arrival -- I had been working with my delivery coordinator to schedule a late July delivery for months, yet when it came down to the day/week, I still had to repeatedly request an overlap with the day my lease was up, which was about a week later than it was delivered to the SC
  • after the lease return department told me the Red Hook showroom was not somewhere I was permitted to return my lease (this is where I took delivery of my S), I explained again that I was picking up a new vehicle and an exception was made -- miss on Tesla's part that the delivery coordinator does not actively work with the showroom, with the lease department, with whomever schedules deliveries to really lock down a plan for customers. Now that I'm a repeat customer, this extra step would have really made me feel even better about dropping $55k on a new car.
  • Tesla removes eligibility of its seven day return window if you want to take advantage New York State's $2,000 rebate (yay!), FYI
  • Tesla dealt with the transfer of my plates and registration, which is a $60 line item on my receipt
  • delivery specialist in person also confirmed he thought Y quality problems are persistent
  • small part of underbelly plastic is hanging, which I will schedule mobile tech to add necessary clip
Next steps:
  • ordered the SnapPlate for my front plate -- even had a question for the company and they were super quick to respond. I did not want to drill holes into the front bumper, so will try this out. FYI, Tesla is now using adhesive tape instead of drilling into the front bumper -- they gave me the holder in case I wanted to use down the line
  • dropped off for a ceramic coating this AM -- will update the thread with pictures and review of the process here in Queens after I get it back later this week
  • I can't imagine I won't do the Acceleration Upgrade .. so enticing
Open questions:
  • I still don't have a great charging solution living in an urban area. While I park in a one-car garage that only I have access to, I don't have direct access to electricity. I don't like handing my car to a valet at a public garage, I like to drive my own car. Question is: If I use specifically 72 kW urban superchargers, does that have the same negative impact to my battery longevity as it is hypothesized the 150/250 kW superchargers do? (I also posted here, as it is a separate topic.)
  • Winter range, which hampered my S quite a bit -- with a smaller battery pack, curious what the difference in efficiency will be. I go up north often in the winter
Long post! Hope it helps somebody. Can answer questions below and will update post-ceramic coat application.
 

AdamVIP

Member
Mar 4, 2019
535
314
California
I think your comparisons are all right on. The S is a way bigger car and rides better on the highway and around town at the expense of maneuverability. The Model 3 has a better user interface (missing IP aside) though and I think the updated S whenever it comes will be pretty tough to beat.
 

PNWLeccy

Active Member
Jul 11, 2019
1,305
1,132
Seattle
I can't imagine living in NYC/Queens with a Model S, that thing feels like a boat in the city! The Model 3 is much more nimble but it will still be tough to navigate the potholes in the city with the relatively stiff suspension. I live in downtown Seattle and these roads are a nightmare and it's a rumblefest until i hit the freeway.

Where in Queens are you located btw? I use to live in Astoria and loved it!
 

FrunkLover

Member
Apr 28, 2020
37
14
Queens, New York
I can't imagine living in NYC/Queens with a Model S, that thing feels like a boat in the city! The Model 3 is much more nimble but it will still be tough to navigate the potholes in the city with the relatively stiff suspension. I live in downtown Seattle and these roads are a nightmare and it's a rumblefest until i hit the freeway.

Where in Queens are you located btw? I use to live in Astoria and loved it!

Astoria! Been here five years, grew up in Brooklyn. New York is a great electric car town if you are comfortable giving your car to a valet and plug it in. I think the hidden secret are indoor municipal lots, run by the city. Many of them include free L2 charging and the cost to park isn't outrageous -- and you park yourself. New York State parks and beaches often also have L2, also for free -- just need to get there early.
 
  • Like
Reactions: PNWLeccy

Products we're discussing on TMC...

About Us

Formed in 2006, Tesla Motors Club (TMC) was the first independent online Tesla community. Today it remains the largest and most dynamic community of Tesla enthusiasts. Learn more.

Do you value your experience at TMC? Consider becoming a Supporting Member of Tesla Motors Club. As a thank you for your contribution, you'll get nearly no ads in the Community and Groups sections. Additional perks are available depending on the level of contribution. Please visit the Account Upgrades page for more details.


SUPPORT TMC
Top