My Tesla doesn’tLOL... Ive owned maybe 40 cars in the last 15 years, they all had rattles.
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My Tesla doesn’tLOL... Ive owned maybe 40 cars in the last 15 years, they all had rattles.
On a highway, ICE engine noise should be an overriding source of NVH.Having had louder cars in the past, I wonder how much of it is because electric cars are quieter so it's more obvious?
I'd like to see it wiggle, wiggle, for sure?My car don’t jiggle jiggle, it fold….
What was the downside.*Checks calendar and garage*
Yep, the right choice is in place
I had a '95 C4 Corvette that very likely had a few rattles, but it had full 3" exhaust through LT headers with HFCs, heads, a big cam, so I didn't hear them.
Or the radio.
Or the passenger talking to me ...
My 530e has been no masterpiece of tech either. The backup camera stopped working and needed an update. The locking door handles failed and needed replacement. The trunk kept getting stuck. The front passenger seat rattled if unoccupied. The battery lost half of its warm weather range in two years.My last BMW was a 2019 545. There was nothing special about the interior...
That's interesting. I'd have thought the BMW would gave been the better drivers cars, they've certainly got more experience in developing cars for that niche (albeit in ice form).Interesting comparison. Looks like the M3P is the better driver's car but the i4 M50 is the better commuter car.
I have googled BMW i4 and "rattles" and not found a single thread or post. And every review I see about the i4 praises it´s interior quality. Both in feel and fit and finish. I have owned a BMW 135i Coupe and the quality in the interior far surpasses that of my M3P. The plastics used in my Tesla feels cheap and scratches easily. The interior of my 135 looked more or less brand new after 13 years!
And sure there are "lemons". But when I took delivery of my Tesla I was shocked. Paint chip, blue stains on several spots, cratched rims, panel gaps all over, the hood is actually crocked to it bogs down in the mittle, giving the car a very strande look from the front, etc. A very poor experience and they had clearly not even looked at the car before handing it out to me. That is NOT the way BMW works.
So if anyone actually owned a BMW i4 or at least have used one I would be glad if they could respond with how the interior felt, and more important if you could hear any sounds/squeaks/rattles.
@Theone8181 Felt like BMW abandoned the "driver's car" thing with the F30 3-series. I haven't driven a BMW since and I'm a bit afraid to after that massive disappointment.That's interesting. I'd have thought the BMW would gave been the better drivers cars, they've certainly got more experience in developing cars for that niche (albeit in ice form).
@Theone8181 Felt like BMW abandoned the "driver's car" thing with the F30 3-series. I haven't driven a BMW since and I'm a bit afraid to after that massive disappointment.
Everyone says that the BMW is so much faster than the Model 3 at higher speeds. I am not convinced that actually is the case anymore.
I’m guessing it was all done on the one charge
Interesting comparison. Looks like the M3P is the better driver's car but the i4 M50 is the better commuter car.
I'm very pleasantly surprised with the M3P as a "driver's car", granted, it's a notably different experience.
The AWD system is superb and feels predictable and unobtrusive - the visibility (something many people don't consider) is excellent,
I had 99% or even 100% for those runs. We can charge right at our track with 14-50 RV chargers.I'm very pleasantly surprised with the M3P as a "driver's car", granted, it's a notably different experience.
The AWD system is superb and feels predictable and unobtrusive - the visibility (something many people don't consider) is excellent, I find it's easy to set up a really good driving position (or a few with all the profile slots). The brakes have pretty good feedback (I have the Performance model), the steering in sport mode has a surprising amount of feel.
Sometimes I hussle through an area and recall how totally different it felt in a previous ride, but while different, also fun and engaging.
Oh, you added extra photo post-quote, I was going to ask to confirm it's a Model 3, umm, and it is! Looks like a P model too.
Those are pretty killer ETs and MPH, especially the latter, what was your SOC on those runs?
Finally had a chance to watch this. Kyle is as on point as ever. Great comparison for anyone who really likes to drive hard.Interesting comparison. Looks like the M3P is the better driver's car but the i4 M50 is the better commuter car.
That must be pretty bad as I think the rear is poor on the 3. Saying that my last car was a coupe and 10 years old so likely thinner pillars.Interesting review. Thanks for posting it.
There is another clip with a bunch of guys comparing Model 3 AP vs. i4's ADAS features, and i4 comes out ahead.
At first, I was surprised by that outcome.
On the other hand, in the ~4 years of ownership, Tesla has done just about NOTHING to materially improve the AP performance. It is still flaky and remains easily confused in the exactly same spots on the road as it did ~4 years ago when the car was new.
I guess others have caught up and exceeded Tesla's AP.
Between a higher quality interior vs. Model 3 (which sets a pretty low bench mark) and better ADAS reliability, I can see why they would conclude i4 makes for a better commuter car.
I think TM3P driving dynamics still shine compared to the EV competition. There are far better ICE (aka vegan) handling cars out there, but among the EVs, TM3P is still the best performance ticket.
Take visibility, for example. Front and sides are good, rear visibility is lousy.
I test drove i4, and the rear visibility and rear passenger seat real estate are even worse!
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Super impressive. What's really nuts is your trap speeds. Best I've ever been able to do is 118mph, but no chargers at the track so I was around 93-94% SOC IIRC. What was the weather like? Did you have a tailwind at all? Any weight reduction on the car?Everyone says that the BMW is so much faster than the Model 3 at higher speeds. I am not convinced that actually is the case anymore.
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Finally had a chance to watch this. Kyle is as on point as ever. Great comparison for anyone who really likes to drive hard.
M3P is definitely more my kind of car.