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It should be the same basis for all, provided by the RMV to the city and town tax offices. I think the state auto dealers association is involved with providing the information to RMV for all other makes, but not Teslas of course. Once the RMV gets corrected it should be fine. Maybe I’ll contact someone in Tesla Government Relations and suggest they proactively communicate base prices of all cars in future, to save their customers $ and hassle.
As for your case, I think you’re missing a digit on the valuation. Also what car do you have? I suggest you call the RMV at (857) 368-8080 to appeal your valuation and tax.
I wonder now that we have the MR car starting at 45,000 the RMV may again adjust valuations.
1st Production RWD.
So is that the process? Call the RMV, then when everything is square with them file an abatement form with my town? And I assume just pay my bill and try to get money back later?
Doesn't sound very hopeful dealing with government entities.
I wasn’t excited about going after the abatement, so I waited until I got the right amount. Ended up taking about a week, which was a day or two after it was due, so the extra fee was small, <$5 I think.
I learned the hard way not to ignore those bills the first time I moved out of MA. The charges add up fast. NH's way makes so much more sense - pay the taxes when you renew, not after. Don't want to pay your taxes? Fine, no registration for you!I’ve been waiting for an updated bill from Cambridge, but as I’m nearing the 30-day payment window I’ll give them a call tomorrow and try to sort it out.
I’ve been waiting for an updated bill from Cambridge, but as I’m nearing the 30-day payment window I’ll give them a call tomorrow and try to sort it out.
I learned the hard way not to ignore those bills the first time I moved out of MA. The charges add up fast. NH's way makes so much more sense - pay the taxes when you renew, not after. Don't want to pay your taxes? Fine, no registration for you!
I'm talking about what is (essentially) the NH town's excise/property tax. Every year, you go to town hall and pay the town fees (excise tax) as part of the renewal process (or mail in a check). You don't get your new registration and stickers until you pay your excise tax first, so no need for the infrastructure to collect the excise tax after the fact.That is exactly how the *sales* tax is collected. In MA the *excise* (property) tax is collected by the town.
So I tried to use an online service to do so (who has faxes anymore? The state of course), but have no idea if it went through.
shadownddust or anyone can you confirm the RMV fax number 857-368-0812 is correct? Of course even Google can't manage to find it anywhere. This is why faxes are terrible.
I finally called the RMV today, quickly got a surprisingly nice person on the phone, who definitely confirmed I should be taxed on the base price on the window sticker. She asked me to fax over the window sticker and would call me back when received. So I tried to use an online service to do so (who has faxes anymore? The state of course), but have no idea if it went through.
@shadownddust or anyone can you confirm the RMV fax number 857-368-0812 is correct? Of course even Google can't manage to find it anywhere. This is why faxes are terrible.
Thanks again to everyone for your help. Looks like the state will be fleecing people hundreds each year for the mistake.
It doesn’t use the words MSRP, because there’s no “suggested” involved. It IS the retail price. If you look at the photo of the sticker in my starting post, it says “Model 3 $35,000”. How much clearer does it need to be?
I sent an email to two managers I know at Tesla describing the situation and pointing to this thread, and asked them to forward to someone in regional management or government affairs as appropriate. Hope it helps.
I'm talking about what is (essentially) the NH town's excise/property tax. Every year, you go to town hall and pay the town fees (excise tax) as part of the renewal process (or mail in a check). You don't get your new registration and stickers until you pay your excise tax first, so no need for the infrastructure to collect the excise tax after the fact.
Most towns are "registration agents" for the state, and can collect the state fees, process new and renewal registrations, title applications, and issue license plates and stickers as well. The only time we ever need to go to the DMV is for every other license renewal (every 10 years).
I just got a call back from the RMV. They said the sticker does not use the words MSRP so it can't be used. Well neither does my purchase agreement or any other document. It's a window sticker, that is the function of a window sticker!
Anyway, she said she can go by the $44,000 MSRP she has "on her screen." Ooookay.... where did that come from? Why isn't that being used for valuation?
They will be sending a letter both to my town and to me stating this. I have another week or so before it's due so I'm hoping I get it in time then march into the town hall and have a chat. I'll continue to report my progress.