Mach-E beats Tesla Model 3 as Consumer Reports top electric vehicle for 2022

[henryrhonda]

Take a look at who is a significant benefactor to CR [FORD FOUNDATION], also look into the resume of the CR Editor [FORD MOTOR COMPANY]. Rule is don't bite the hand that feeds you.

I find it amazing that when the CR report is based on user responses [TESLA LEADS THE PACK] but when it is based on CR analysis [TESLA SUCKS]

I recently let my 40+ year subscription laps.....do you wonder why

 

[henryrhonda]

Take a look at who is a significant benefactor to CR [FORD FOUNDATION], also look into the resume of the CR Editor [FORD MOTOR COMPANY]. Rule is don't bite the hand that feeds you.

I find it amazing that when the CR report is based on user responses [TESLA LEADS THE PACK] but when it is based on CR analysis [TESLA SUCKS]

I recently let my 40+ year subscription laps.....do you wonder why

From the CR site: [by the way Sloan is GM]

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[Darmie]

Are the Mach E's available for purchase yet? Maybe CR needs to edit their article and note that Mach-E's are not available in the US for the rest of the year.
We are members of a local Mustang group (Yea, long story). There was a gentleman a while back asking if anyone had one that him and his wife could look at. I mention to try the local ME forums and groups and also check Turo. We were headed to a local car event that evening. I mention we will be at this event with a Tesla if they wanted to compare. When they arrived they told us all the dealers in the area mention there was no Mach E's available. They ask, the dealers if they could just look at one and apparently there was none to look at. He did say a friend that works for service at one of the dealers did have them, just not available to purchase.

Curious to know what's happening in other parts of the Country.

 

[roblab]

How about we celebrate competition and these companies pushing each other to innovate, improve, and provide the best product for consumers at the best price and value possible

As I recall, the push for electrics was entirely on Tesla's shoulders. It was part of their initial idea, that building a great electric would force other companies (ie. Ford and GM) to start building them too. At this point, that hasn't succeeded a whole bunch because the gas engine cars are still selling well enough, even though Tesla is making inroads. They won't switch until they have to, and already they are offering a weak solution to people who are deciding they want an EV, selling them at a lower price, but not really mentioning that the cars have half, or less, of the range (of my S). They DO NOT WANT competition. The only people who are working on better battery packs or smoother, more powerful motors is TESLA, while GM and Ford simply add a little leather to the dashboard to attract the uneducated masses.

 

[john5520]

I bet the Lightning will be CR's top electric truck:

Charge Station Fault -> Charge Fault -> Powertrain Malfunction Fault

I mentioned this in the 6/6 build thread, but figured I should post the experience here in case it applies to anyone else. On Monday 7/25 the truck threw a charge station fault error. I unplugged the evse and the vehicle reported “plugged in not charging.” Eventually the charge station fault...

www.f150lightningforum.com

Powertrain Malfunction/Reduced Power

Well looks like I may be truck number two. Until we start getting more feedback I'm going to start a thread of my own. Will see if it ends up being the same as @mstuewe...

www.f150lightningforum.com

 

[Darmie]

I bet the Lightning will be CR's top electric truck:

Charge Station Fault -> Charge Fault -> Powertrain Malfunction Fault

I mentioned this in the 6/6 build thread, but figured I should post the experience here in case it applies to anyone else. On Monday 7/25 the truck threw a charge station fault error. I unplugged the evse and the vehicle reported “plugged in not charging.” Eventually the charge station fault...

www.f150lightningforum.com

Powertrain Malfunction/Reduced Power

Well looks like I may be truck number two. Until we start getting more feedback I'm going to start a thread of my own. Will see if it ends up being the same as @mstuewe...

www.f150lightningforum.com

This customer is not happy. Oh, and that part happens to be a battery module replacement. Brings up an interesting though. I though there was a concern swapping out just modules and not the full battery pack due to differences in voltages ect..

 

[MP3Mike]

This customer is not happy. Oh, and that part happens to be a battery module replacement. Brings up an interesting though. I though there was a concern swapping out just modules and not the full battery pack due to differences in voltages ect..



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Swapping modules in a Tesla pack won't work, at least not long term. It is possible that Ford has done something to support/allow the cell/module differences. (Capacity/voltage/internal resistance/etc.) Or it is possible that they think they have, but don't yet have the experience to see what will happen long term. (The more fast charging/trips that occur the faster things will compound and go out of balance.)

edit: From looking at the thread I can't tell if they are talking about an electronic control module, or a battery module. It sort of looks like they are talking about an electronics module, like maybe the on-board charger?

 

[Whatstreet]

Swapping modules in a Tesla pack won't work, at least not long term. It is possible that Ford has done something to support/allow the cell/module differences. (Capacity/voltage/internal resistance/etc.) Or it is possible that they think they have, but don't yet have the experience to see what will happen long term. (The more fast charging/trips that occur the faster things will compound and go out of balance.)

edit: From looking at the thread I can't tell if they are talking about an electronic control module, or a battery module. It sort of looks like they are talking about an electronics module, like maybe the on-board charger?

The module being replaced is called the contactor. Mechanical relays in the module.

 

[bareyb]

It's a business. They picked Mustang because it's Ford and only then because they can't give it to Tesla again. They need to give "best of the year" to different brands or they won't make any money.