SabrToothSqrl
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this is why no matter how good {electric car that's not a tesla} is... it's irrelevant. (sadly). because it can't... car.
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this is why no matter how good {electric car that's not a tesla} is... it's irrelevant. (sadly). because it can't... car.
Yup, and again, it’ll be like that for all EVs as they rely on an unreliable, third-party network to handle their customers’ charging. So until others follow Tesla’s path (like Rivian is doing), that’ll always threaten to be a major weak point.The car itself is good, the charging network needs a lot of work.
the difference is that the tesla network is built and operated by tesla while ford and other manufacturers have contracted the high speed charging out to third parties. so in the case of ford it would be electrify america who should be sending flatbeds out to down chargers or deploying repair crews to down units. it isn't the ford people who are clueless it is EA who is falling down on the job.If the other car manufacturers had a clue, they would work hard to make the CCS network reliable in the US. Just like Tesla did. Early in the day, Tesla actually contracted with flatbed tow truck operators when a critical supercharger went down (like Harris Ranch, central CA). They also deployed diesel powered temporary SC stations when the power/SC would go down for extended periods of time. They actually took flack in the know nothing press as they were made fun of by having diesel powered electric charging stations. But they kept Tesla owners on the road. Contrast that with Ford in that video. Ford is absolutely clueless with third rate engineers who themselves don't seem to know what is required.
the difference is that the tesla network is built and operated by tesla while ford and other manufacturers have contracted the high speed charging out to third parties. so in the case of ford it would be electrify america who should be sending flatbeds out to down chargers or deploying repair crews to down units. it isn't the ford people who are clueless it is EA who is falling down on the job.
the reliability of their network has been a flaw in the EA network but there have been vast improvements made by EA in the past few months and hopefully things will continue to improve.
well you are consistent.There are several Mach-E specific EA connectivity problems. 1) Not starting to charge automatically as promised. 2) Failing to start charging at all. 3) Failing the charging session soon after starting. 4) Plus Ford's exclusive 11-12kW maximum charging rate above 80% SOC (unrelated to EA). I think that Taycan is more consistent in starting and continuing charging sessions. So, it's not the EA's fault (not only the EA's fault).
are you aware that the teslas will have severe tapering over 80% or so SOC?
are you suggesting that your one of situation should be the standard used?I
Oh, and before you get on me about "bottom of the battery, you're not doing it right, why are you charging past 80% anyway" nonsense, please know that although there is an additional charger that I could stop at on that particular leg of my travel, it has a history of being ICED and also broken. So I charge up to make it home with about 5% remaining, without any environmental conditions, as a backup.
are you suggesting that your one of situation should be the standard used?
are you suggesting that your one of situation should be the standard used?
if that affects the dynamics of the battery, yes.Are you suggesting it's acceptable to taper to 12 kW, which I can get on my home charger, over 80% on a DC Fast Charger?
if that affects the dynamics of the battery, yes.
What is an appropriate rate of charge across the spectrum? serious question? Tesla don’t charge at maximum rate across the SOC. Heck - I was at at SC with a MY and was only getting 61kW @ 40% SOC.Are you suggesting it's acceptable to taper to 12 kW, which I can get on my home charger, over 80% on a DC Fast Charger?
What is an appropriate rate of charge across the spectrum? serious question? Tesla don’t charge at maximum rate across the SOC. Heck - I was at at SC with a MY and was only getting 61kW @ 40% SOC.
I agree 12kW is kind of silly on DC - but what’s an acceptable drop? Is there one?
Lots of similar reviews of the charging of the Mach-E. The car itself is good, the charging network needs a lot of work.
The fear is this kind of experience sours people to EVs in general, as many people buying a Mach-E might be first time EV buyers. It's unfortunate a lot of automakers underestimate the importance of the charging network.
well you are consistent.
the taycan has a big issue with their plug and charge which has a built in issue and plug and charge does not work as promised.
do you have ANY experience with a taycan other than reading blogs?
Whos to say this isn't Fords intention, to just have Tesla Haters buy the Mach-E and then have those same buyers just say EV' are trash.
Ford has done this before with their Ford Performance vehicles that aren't the Mustang or Raptor. The RS was a disaster, they put the ST badge on an SUV. Ford, other than the Mustang and F-150 suck. I'm a huge Ford fan, have owned 5 of them and loved them all.