MXLRplus
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I'm not angry. I'm observant. It's $45 now, and it's in stock, which is rare.
Your theory is that a Volt EVSE is L2 because the circuit board is L2. It's not. It's L1 until you "customize" it.
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Your theory is that a Volt EVSE is L2 because the circuit board is L2. It's not. It's L1 until you "customize" it.
mk677
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the car comes with the charger but not a 14-50 plug which now has to be bought separately
If you think about it, it makes sense. Different people may use different 240V outlets (not necessarily 14-50) and will need different adapters. I've ordered the adapter (was $35 back then) 2 weeks before taking delivery of the car.
diamond.g
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If they can't keep the part in stock and had to include it with every car sold then they wouldn't be able to deliver cars until they had them in hand (at least that is the going theory).
To be fair for the longest time Tesla was the only maker including both plugs for it's EVSE at a cheaper price than 3rd party alternatives. Other makers are just now catching up to doing the same thing. Shoot some folks are still salty about the GEN 2 UMC being capped at 32A instead of the 40A GEN 1 could do.
Home Depot sells a 14-50 adapter for GEN 2 UMC (for 60 bucks), if you really needed one and couldn't wait on Tesla to get in stock.
Come on guys. Stop making excuses. Stop defending silly/grubby behavior. There are many wonderful things about Tesla but sometimes you gotta call a spade a spade.
It isn’t hard to provide the correct plug for North American standards, etc. any more so than different 120v plugs. And if this part was really that hard to produce such that it would impact delivery of vehicles, then Tesla could prioritize its production just like any other of the tens of thousands of essential parts necessary to produce a car. Again, Tesla evidently does not think it is essential to include the ability to charge a car at 240v, or they’ve calculated that it can be spun out as a profitable little up charge, both of which are kind of a slap in the face to someone who just paid $40k+ for a car.
It isn’t hard to provide the correct plug for North American standards, etc. any more so than different 120v plugs. And if this part was really that hard to produce such that it would impact delivery of vehicles, then Tesla could prioritize its production just like any other of the tens of thousands of essential parts necessary to produce a car. Again, Tesla evidently does not think it is essential to include the ability to charge a car at 240v, or they’ve calculated that it can be spun out as a profitable little up charge, both of which are kind of a slap in the face to someone who just paid $40k+ for a car.
Yeah...it’s kinda lame. But is it enough to get my underwear all twisted in a knot, no. $45 a huge issue? Hardly. Last time I was at a dealership, they were trying to push extended services that ended up being much more than that.
diamond.g
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I mean they also include the adapter to charge with J1772 which is arguable less used than the 14-50 pigtail.
mk677
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diamond.g
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And use J1772 over Supercharging or Destination chargers? I mean if it were a money ploy those adapters cost more then the 14-50 adapter, why not make folk pay for those instead?
Huh? The only two places I use J1772 are a parking garage and a city park with free chargers. If you are traveling, unless you refer to local around-town travel as "travel a bit", you use Superchargers. period. full stop. Superchargers, I said. Not J1772 or anything else. Read my lips, s u p e r c h a r g e r s.
I love almost everything about me MME and chose it over the MY for a reason (several, actually), but if I told you I am jealous of the Supercharger network, would that make you feel better? The CCS network will get there, but not for a while and it's tough to be patient.
mk677
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do you tend to sleep at night? while sleeping in a place without a tesla destination charger the only option usually is a J-1772.
on your travels do you ever stop and visit a place for a couple of days off the supercharger network? if yes the only other option is usually a J-1772.
I don't know exactly what your problem is but YOUR experience with the car is not EVERYONES experience.
mk677
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not every place is close by a supercharger and not every hotel has a destination charger.
diamond.g
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That is true. I think it is great that Ford included a 14-50, do they plan on making any other adapters available?
The MME seems to have other frustrating charging issues:
Looking at macheforum.com, there are other problems that seem to be developing with the MME that I hope Ford addresses. However, given their track record with the Mustang and F-150, I'm not too hopeful. Tesla is not immune to issues, but even with the frustration that I've seen posted here, they more often than not, get up off their butts and get it done. Ford is a whole different animal in that regard.
It's a good competitor and one that I've warmed up to. My sister owns and loves Mustangs, so I started to push her towards the Mach-e, but I'll have to wait and see.
Looking at macheforum.com, there are other problems that seem to be developing with the MME that I hope Ford addresses. However, given their track record with the Mustang and F-150, I'm not too hopeful. Tesla is not immune to issues, but even with the frustration that I've seen posted here, they more often than not, get up off their butts and get it done. Ford is a whole different animal in that regard.
It's a good competitor and one that I've warmed up to. My sister owns and loves Mustangs, so I started to push her towards the Mach-e, but I'll have to wait and see.
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