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Just my thought and 2 cents worth, but I won't seriously consider any other brand as 'competition' until they also roll out a nationwide charging infrastructure.
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Just my thought and 2 cents worth, but I won't seriously consider any other brand as 'competition' until they also roll out a nationwide charging infrastructure.
They also need to make more than 50k cars a year. A lot of people are dipping toes in the 10-50k cars a year club. Makes sense for a high end 200k car, but less so for “mass market” carsJust my thought and 2 cents worth, but I won't seriously consider any other brand as 'competition' until they also roll out a nationwide charging infrastructure.
Just my thought and 2 cents worth, but I won't seriously consider any other brand as 'competition' until they also roll out a nationwide charging infrastructure.
Just my thought and 2 cents worth, but I won't seriously consider any other brand as 'competition' until they also roll out a nationwide charging infrastructure.
I'm an addict...I'm placing an order now for an X. I have an existing 7-seat model Y performance order that I'm not sure what is going to happen to it, but I'm going to throw $100 away on a gamble now and order a 7-seat model X and hope that I lock in some kind of savings for it.
Thanks! Perhaps I will put down $100 nowThe risk is that the earlier you are in the queue, or closer to the end of quarter your car is built, the higher the probability of getting a mixed bag quality build
Just my thought and 2 cents worth, but I won't seriously consider any other brand as 'competition' until they also roll out a nationwide charging infrastructure.
I still cannot believe the X doesn’t have phone-as-key. I hate (hate!!) having to carry a keyfob around. I really got used to leaving the house with just my wallet & phone. Now I have to carry a key too, and that feels so 1980s ...
Don’t understand this - if a car has massage seats, what kind of car does that make it?
Genuine question. I don’t want, nor would use massage seats, but I’m not getting it. Do you mean a car that has massage seats is a luxury car, and Tesla doesn't want to build a luxury car? Or..?
Where exactly does one see the Raven upgrade?The Raven upgrade was a huge improvement
Where exactly does one see the Raven upgrade?
Where exactly does one see the Raven upgrade?
Tesla is not the only company building out battery factories and investing in R&D. Not by a long shot. Volkswagen Group alone is investing about $10B per year which is far more than Tesla. They're not going to be vertically integrated like Tesla is, but they are spending a significant amount of money to ensure they have an adequate supply chain and battery technology. Then on top of that you have billions from other companies like Ford, Rivian, etc. to establish supply chains with companies like Panasonic and LG Chem.
Tesla did the hard work of proving EVs can be done. Now that that's been done, it's going to be a lot easier for other companies to catch up. Especially VW Group with its tens of billions of dollars to throw into R&D and supply chain acquisition.
Other car makers will make compelling EVs and some will sell quite well, but I think Tesla is going to remain the top of the pack for some time to come. There may come a day when they get complacent and lazy and a competitor catches them out, but it will be a while.
And things like the octovalve are cool engineering tricks but aren't game changers in their own right. VW could build a competitive car without ever designing an octovalve of their own.
I think that's exactly the opposite of the reality. Octovalve especially is THE magic in the Model Y. It's what drives the efficiency and drives what gives it twice the range of any other electric SUV.
VW can't even build a car with downloadable firmware. They needed to send someone out with tens of thousands of USB sticks to update cars that were bricked in a parking lot.
You really think the octovalve is the reason for the Model Y's energy efficiency? Not the motors, aerodynamics, or BMS? The octovalve is cool but it's a marginal increase in energy efficiency at best - its value is more in production efficiency and reducing the size and components of the heat pump. It allows Tesla to have a heat pump in a much smaller space with fewer components, which is great - but hardly game changing.
VW is building its software from scratch. There are going to be issues on that front, especially in the beginning. Let's not forget the Tesla OS had a lot of issues in the beginning (and still has issues - have you tried using Spotify at all?). In 3-4 years VW's software will be much more mature. And that's just VW - can't forget all the other majors players investing billions in the EV game.
I haven't taken a fob with me for months. I can unlock and start my car with my iphone or iwatch in a number of ways, including an automated shortcut that unlocks the car and enables keyless driving whenever the phone connects to the car by Bluetooth as well as voice commands to do almost anything, When I used to walk out of the supermarket with hands full all I had to do was tell my watch to open the trunk. Now, of course, I tell the watch to have the food delivered....