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"Stuttgart, November 29, 2016, BMW Group, Daimler AG, Ford Motor Company and Volkswagen Group with Audi and Porsche have signed a Memorandum of Understanding
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The Joint Venture formation is subject to execution of definitive agreements and merger control approval in various jurisdictions."
This is good news for EVs, of course. But...
It's not even actual vaporware yet, it's announcing that they're planning to create vaporware.Right now this announcement is just vaporware, and even that much "progress" would never have happened if Tesla did not exist.
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News and vaporware (or pre-vaporware) are two different things.This is great news!!! More charging location the better for everyone. In the end it really only comes down to three things price, battery and design. Those will drive success for any car company in the future
The S60 tops out just a little over 100kW at a Supercharger and the S85/90 tops out just under 120 kW. Yet you are certain that the ~55 kWh Model 3 will charge at 135 kW?In 2018, Tesla will have a $40,000 car that can use an existing network to charge at 135kw
The S60 tops out just a little over 100kW at a Supercharger and the S85/90 tops out just under 120 kW. Yet you are certain that the ~55 kWh Model 3 will charge at 135 kW?
Is there any battery that can take 350KW charging?
In the simplest terms it would mean you have to halve the internal resistance so that the charge rate didn't overheat the cells.
I haven't seen any automotive grade battery (by which I mean long life/power density and power/weight) tech announced that even gets close to this.
With current technology you would have to double the cell count and that certainly is not going to happen.
Actually the only significant announcement from the Germans really is that MB are investing in their own "gigafactory". At least they are starting to consider the full picture perhaps from their experience as Tesla shareholders. The Germans will get there but they sure are fumbling the ball big time right now. 5 years of Model S and nothing whatsoever by way of competition. Apple iPhone comparisons are certainly appropriate.
To me it sounds like yet another announcement designed to "beat Tesla" which has little substance in reality.
Ok. They claim these 400 sites will be installed next year so it's not some far-off ambiguous fantasy and Opel Ampera-e cars will apparently be plugging into them.The Superchargers are 135kw, what ends up getting to the car is another question entirely. Same applies to the vaporware 350kw German Superchargers.
Just like YMMV, your Supercharging rate may vary.
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Ok. They claim these 400 sites will be installed next year so it's not some far-off ambiguous fantasy and Opel Ampera-e cars will apparently be plugging into them.
So, I guess GM will have a ~$40,000 car that can use an existing network to charge at 350 kW.
I'm just kidding with RubberToe who quoted the Supercharger hardware rate of 135 kW (actually 145 kW now) instead of the rate that the Model 3 will actually be able to draw from a Supercharger with its base trim battery.Where are you getting information that the Opel Ampera-e will be able to use 350kW? (GM has said that the Bolt can only use 50kW even though they are requiring dealers to install in 80kW chargers.)
At 800 volt the 350kw should not be too hard... Vaporwear yes but the Germans start to panick a litlle and let's just hope they will now actually move as well.