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Making the case for an Apple solution to the looming Tesla battery crisis
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Garlan Garner
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What "what"? If your car was impacted, you wouldn't be so quick to dismiss the OP as FUD. But hey, it's an S problem, and your 3 is safe (for now, at least), so it's clearly "FUD."
Do yourself a favor, go read the linked thread (even the first wiki post) and learn what's actually happening. Using OTA "updates," Tesla took away range, charge speed, performance, safety (in the form of regen breaking), battery warranty coverage (by delaying potential battery failures past the 8 year expiration) and resale value from pre-facelift cars with no explanation, compensation, or apology. The impacts are real. It is the exact opposite of FUD.
Garlan Garner
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What "what"? If your car was impacted, you wouldn't be so quick to dismiss the OP as FUD. But hey, it's an S problem, and your 3 is safe (for now, at least), so it's clearly "FUD."
Do yourself a favor, go read the linked thread (even the first wiki post) and learn what's actually happening. Using OTA "updates," Tesla took away range, charge speed, performance, safety (in the form of regen breaking), battery warranty coverage (by delaying potential battery failures past the 8 year expiration) and resale value from pre-facelift cars with no explanation, compensation, or apology. The impacts are real. It is the exact opposite of FUD.
I could care less about my car concerning this topic. Its not about my car and I'm not making it about my car. How did my car become a part of this?
Anyway,
I don't believe the findings at all.
What article? You mean this Sudden Loss Of Range With 2019.16.x Software
474 pages thread? You believe all the affected are hallucinating?
Garlan Garner
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Wooloomooloo
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Not everything you personally disagree with is "FUD" - I wish people would stop using that term here, it's really never helpful.
Back on topic, I don't think Tesla will actually address this issue, but they will standardize the battery pack technology across their models. Perhaps at some point in the future, new packs will be offered for older cars, but that doesn't seem likely in the near future.
Maybe continue to push with Tesla on a case-by-case basis. The real life examples of trips no longer being viable with the update are quite compelling and might get you an offer from Tesla to replace the pack.
Garlan Garner
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I edited my previous post for spelling corrections.
Like this one.
I don't think its a crisis.....that's all. That's the only thing I have commented to.
Garlan Garner
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Wooloomooloo
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You changed "I don't believe the article one bit." to "I don't believe the findings at all."
One suggests the conclusions are incorrect, the other suggests the data is incorrect, so quite different.
It's hyperbolic for sure. You could have just said that.
Garlan Garner
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Because there is more than one article...I changed it to findings - to include all articles.
There are people who come here who aren't pulling for Tesla at all....and that's fine. Its not against the rules. I've been here a long time and I've seen long drawn out messages that don't help anyone at all - that only seem to make people question buying or owning a Tesla. The articles are well written and sound believable, but are vastly exaggerated and do a disservice to the truth.
Oh well...I'm not trying to convince anyone of anything - I'm only saying that this isn't a crisis.
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Garlan Garner
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I thought I did say it. I said that there is no looming crisis in my very first statement.
There is also this somewhat ominous thread with several owners all reporting failures occurring very recently.
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Wooloomooloo
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Most people stopped reading after the "Stop the FUD" part. Usually when you want to counter someone's point, you counter their point. If you start by undermining what they've said, it comes across as antagonistic and the counterpoint won't be heard.
Even with all that, you've actually offered no explanation as to why you think the prior thread and article with all of the evidence showing range loss and peak charging speed loss, is either false or misleading. It's one thing to say, OK this may be true but it's not a crisis for Tesla; but another thing entirely to just say "this isn't true at all".
You might want to peruse the content of the class action lawsuit currently making it's way through mediation. It will in all likelihood ultimately result in Tesla replacing many thousands of battery packs under warranty (or more likely buy them out) and also likely face significant NHTSA penalties. I promise you those in the know at Tesla consider it a looming crisis.
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