Mammoth Mtn

[4SUPER9]

Schatz Bakery parking lot is always jam packed and overflowing. Any chargers would be iced endlessly.

Certainly is. One trick I use is to get in and out of there quickly is to grab the pre-packaged sandwiches. Unless you need a custom sandwich, these are just as good, and no wait.
What I meant by Schatz, is near Schatz. Across the street, there is a park and a Carl's Jr.. Not sure if that's where the White Mountain Ranger lot is to which GRA was referring.

 

[GRA]

Certainly is. One trick I use is to get in and out of there quickly is to grab the pre-packaged sandwiches. Unless you need a custom sandwich, these are just as good, and no wait.
What I meant by Schatz, is near Schatz. Across the street, there is a park and a Carl's Jr.. Not sure if that's where the White Mountain Ranger lot is to which GRA was referring.

The White Mountain Ranger District HQ is just on the north side of the park:

Google Maps

There are some trees for shade, a picnic table or two IIRR, a water faucet, bathrooms (probably only during open hours, but I forget) and a small creek/canal paralleling the sidewalk. Check it out on street view. Looking at streetview (Oct. 2011), it looks like the recession killed the mall and hamburger joint across the street. I haven't been through since 2009 IIRR, and they were still in business then (we stopped for some bread and goodies and Schat's).

 

[callmesam]

Did anyone notice that the P85D shot was taken at Inyokern Airport? Should we be looking there?


what about Mojave spaceport?

 

[4SUPER9]

Did anyone notice that the P85D shot was taken at Inyokern Airport? Should we be looking there?


what about Mojave spaceport?

I hate to say this, but in traveling to Mammothe for over 35 years, I have never once pulled over in Inyokern. I do not know what is there, but by looking them up on the internet, it seems like there is a Subway around there. That would make logical sense for facilities.

To be honest though, I would only be hoping for a quick charge there, to do a bigger charge in Lone Pine so as to make it up the hill with sufficient amounts to make it back.

 

[abasile]

I'm excited to see an SC coming to Lone Pine instead of Bishop for the following reasons:
- It will enable easy travel to Whitney Portal and Horseshoe Meadows.
- As the first real town in Owens Valley as one heads north, Lone Pine always seems to be a natural place for us to stop, easier than pushing on to Bishop.
- With a little care in good conditions, those coming from near Cajon Pass, the High Desert, or the San Bernardino Mountains should be able to bypass Inyokern and make it all the way to Lone Pine on a charge.
- It's still close enough to Mammoth.

Now, if only Tesla can install another SC in Lee Vining, that would be perfect for continuing north toward Reno or heading over Tioga Pass.

 

[GRA]

I'm excited to see an SC coming to Lone Pine instead of Bishop for the following reasons:
- It will enable easy travel to Whitney Portal and Horseshoe Meadows.
- As the first real town in Owens Valley as one heads north, Lone Pine always seems to be a natural place for us to stop, easier than pushing on to Bishop.
- With a little care in good conditions, those coming from near Cajon Pass, the High Desert, or the San Bernardino Mountains should be able to bypass Inyokern and make it all the way to Lone Pine on a charge.
- It's still close enough to Mammoth.

Now, if only Tesla can install another SC in Lee Vining, that would be perfect for continuing north toward Reno or heading over Tioga Pass.

+1000 to that, although I'm usually driving south from Lee Vining to Bishop or Lone Pine, and return. I want SCs in all three towns, to limit any anxiety over being able to make the return trip after being parked at a trailhead. Lee Vining-South Lake-Lee Vining is very tight for a 60 without an SC in Bishop. Going from Lee Vining to a trailhead out of Big Pine and return is impossible. Then infill SCs at Mammoth, Bridgeport, SLT/Minden and probably Independence and Big Pine eventually.

 

[4SUPER9]

Now here's an interesting little tidbit: The upcoming Model P85D was spotted in the wild where? Drumroll please... Inyokern Airport!!!

 

[callmesam]

Now here's an interesting little tidbit: The upcoming Model P85D was spotted in the wild where? Drumroll please... Inyokern Airport!!!

I think someone noticed that . . .

Mammoth Mtn - Page 9

 

[cpa]

Perhaps a better choice would be the Indian Wells Brewery:

Contact Us | Indian Wells Brewing Company

It is about 3 miles south of the US395/SR14 junction. They have a restaurant and motel as well as their brewpub.

I stopped by there several years ago to grab a cold one in July to take a short driving break, and it seemed nice enough.

This location would be easier for US395 travelers to make a slight detour west rather than the SR14 drivers taking a longer detour east to Inyokern.

Now, if Mojave or Tehachapi would get a SC [sigh!]

 

[4SUPER9]

I think someone noticed that . . .

Mammoth Mtn - Page 9

Oops. You're right. Don't know how I missed that post given how obsessive I am about this route.:redface:

Perhaps a better choice would be the Indian Wells Brewing Company

It is about 3 miles south of the US395/SR14 junction. They have a restaurant and motel as well as their brewpub.
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This location would be easier for US395 travelers to make a slight detour west rather than the SR14 drivers taking a longer detour east to Inyokern....

If Inyokern, that detour adds about 9 miles for us Hwy 14 users. I would love the Indian Wells solution, which was the rumor long ago. Funny, I never stopped there in all these years.

 

[4SUPER9]

Once Lone Pine is up, I can make the trip to Mammoth, if I can just get to Lone Pine. I just was looking at EvPlanner and at Google maps. I can get there from either Barstow (an additional 100 miles) or from Tejon (an additional 55 miles). Since this is a frequent trip for me (10 times/year if not more), the additional 55 miles adds up quite a bit! But, I can do it if I have to.

Has anyone made the trip from Tejon Ranch (EV or ICE)? I would like to know what these roads are like, how slow/fast they are, etc.

 

[Cottonwood]

Once Lone Pine is up, I can make the trip to Mammoth, if I can just get to Lone Pine. I just was looking at EvPlanner and at Google maps. I can get there from either Barstow (an additional 100 miles) or from Tejon (an additional 55 miles). Since this is a frequent trip for me (10 times/year if not more), the additional 55 miles adds up quite a bit! But, I can do it if I have to.

Has anyone made the trip from Tejon Ranch (EV or ICE)? I would like to know what these roads are like, how slow/fast they are, etc.

Rancho Cucamonga is coming and is only 191 miles from Lone Pine, doable, but with elevation, needs care. In addition, as I have posted earlier, a reliable source has informed me that a Supercharger is on it's way to Inyokern which will make the trip a piece of cake.

 

[cpa]

Once Lone Pine is up, I can make the trip to Mammoth, if I can just get to Lone Pine. I just was looking at EvPlanner and at Google maps. I can get there from either Barstow (an additional 100 miles) or from Tejon (an additional 55 miles). Since this is a frequent trip for me (10 times/year if not more), the additional 55 miles adds up quite a bit! But, I can do it if I have to.

Has anyone made the trip from Tejon Ranch (EV or ICE)? I would like to know what these roads are like, how slow/fast they are, etc.

4super9, from Ft. Tejon you can take Weedpatch Highway for about 10 miles. It is primarily a farm road, 2-lanes and in good condition. You then head east at a 4-way stop sign on SR223 and pass through Arvin. This is also a 2-lane highway in good condition. The last 8-10 miles or so curve northward and wind through the Sierra Nevada foothills before joining SR58. Once you are on SR58 the highway is 4-lanes with speeds varying between 55 and 65 MPH depending upon whether it is a freeway or divided highway. Tehachapi Summit is about 4,000 feet, and rarely closed during the winter, as it is the only access to the Valley from the Southwest. About the only Tesla-related issue would be the high winds that frequently blow through the pass, but I would presume that they are generally minimal during ski season.

Tehachapi has two RV Parks that might be able to provide you with 25-30 miles for an hour's worth of charge if pinched.

 

[4SUPER9]

Thank you CPA. That was very useful. Sounds a lot slower overall, especially with the extra miles.
I think I'll take the ICE instead of adding this much time to the trip.
Let's keep our fingers crossed for Inyokern!

 

[apacheguy]

Rancho Cucamonga is coming and is only 191 miles from Lone Pine, doable, but with elevation, needs care. In addition, as I have posted earlier, a reliable source has informed me that a Supercharger is on it's way to Inyokern which will make the trip a piece of cake.

Err, no, I'm afraid not. With elevation gains and cold temps one would be very hard pressed to make it. TM is supposed to add another SpC at the junction above Mojave though. Ah, yes the one pointed out.

 

[gene]

Once Lone Pine is up, I can make the trip to Mammoth, if I can just get to Lone Pine. I just was looking at EvPlanner and at Google maps. I can get there from either Barstow (an additional 100 miles) or from Tejon (an additional 55 miles). Since this is a frequent trip for me (10 times/year if not more), the additional 55 miles adds up quite a bit! But, I can do it if I have to.

Has anyone made the trip from Tejon Ranch (EV or ICE)? I would like to know what these roads are like, how slow/fast they are, etc.

I've made the trip several times from Tejon to Independence, at 60 to 65 mph, which is 15 miles farther north than Lone Pine. With a range charge in my S85, I make it to Independence with 45 miles to spare. On the return trip, I can make it from Independence (Ray's Den Motel has a 14-50) with a range charge to Tejon at 75 mph with 80 miles to spare.

 

[Cottonwood]

Rancho Cucamonga is coming and is only 191 miles from Lone Pine, doable, but with elevation, needs care. In addition, as I have posted earlier, a reliable source has informed me that a Supercharger is on it's way to Inyokern which will make the trip a piece of cake.

Err, no, I'm afraid not. With elevation gains and cold temps one would be very hard pressed to make it. TM is supposed to add another SpC at the junction above Mojave though. Ah, yes the one pointed out.

I didn't say it would be easy, but it is doable in an 85. The net elevation gain from Rancho Cucamonga to Lone Pine is about 2,500 feet and the distance is 191 miles. See my post at Realistic Range Expectations in Crummy Winter Weather - Hypermiling in the Winter...Brrr where I did 228 miles with 2,000 feet of net gain, going over 3 mountain passes, one over 11,000 feet, all in the Colorado winter.

 

[gene]

This last weekend I stayed and charged at Ray's Den Motel in Independence. Proprietor, Linda, told me she's had 8 Tesla's stay overnight in the last two months. I'm glad she's getting some Tesla guests as I was the one who talked her into installing the 14-50. She says "I can't wait for the Model 3 to arrive, so I can buy one!". Linda is also in the process of having a solar system designed. Rooms are super clean with good mattresses etc.

In Lone Pine I visited the future site for the new Super Chargers. There's a large electrical junction box at the left (south) of theater building. I imagine the chargers will be installed there.

 

[jackbowers]

Just noticed there's destination charging at the Westin in Mammoth Lakes! Called them up and it's free if you eat at the restaurant or stay overnight. A full charge there will take an 85 KWh car all the way to the Barstow Supercharger, thanks to a 40-mile elevation advantage going South. Still a pain driving North to Mammoth until the Lone Pine Supercharger opens.

 

[callmesam]

Just noticed there's now destination charging at the Westin in Mammoth Lakes! Called them up and it's free if you eat at the restaurant or stay overnight.

Last time I tried to drive up, I called around and NOBODY had charging (even 110), so this is great news! I ended up staying at the Westin and begged the manager on duty to do anything to encourage Tesla owners to stay, so I guess they eventually listened.