Mandatory Speed Limiters from July 2022?

[Tony Hoyle]

And it probably gets the speed limit wrong anyway..

What would be interesting is if anyone has driven the cars in the list on this site what actual day to day affect it has.. Intelligent Speed Assistance (ISA) | ETSC

 

[Jason71]

As Jeremy Clarkson said:

“Speed has never killed anyone, suddenly becoming stationary… that’s what gets you”

tell that to a pedestrian

 

[teaston]

And it probably gets the speed limit wrong anyway..

What would be interesting is if anyone has driven the cars in the list on this site what actual day to day affect it has.. Intelligent Speed Assistance (ISA) | ETSC

It has zero day to day effect, the system can be overidden by the driver.

 

[teaston]

tell that to a pedestrian

That's a good point, so also accelerating extremely suddenly can get you too, I suppose.

 

[Tony Hoyle]

It has zero day to day effect, the system can be overidden by the driver.

That's kind of what I expect.. these things are always blown up in the press as some kind of doomsday.

 

[Jason71]

That's a good point, so also accelerating extremely suddenly can get you too, I suppose.

any extreme changes of speed are what get you which is what "rapidly becoming stationary is" but also being hit by something moving much faster than you. Clarkson of course was only speaking from the point of view of the driver no doubt. Being accelerated to death is not really a thing in a road car not even a model s Plaid but it definitely is if you stand in front of one. 0-60 in 0.1seconds.

 

[Undecided_2]

But that's the worry.

Because it's not a limiter, they should not have called it a limiter.

It's a speed assistant warning. It should not be left to the media to communicate this, because the media are getting it wrong.

The media rarely get anything correct.

 

[SpareHeadOne]

The media rarely get anything correct.

I sort of expect general media to be reporting this stuff incorrectly, but in this case it's specialist journalist who really should be doing better in their own field.

Seriously, could you imagine a sports journalist reporting - with a straight face - that Freddie Flintoff was going to be playing up front for Man U next season because he was going to do a pro/celeb charity match with them?

 

[Lx2m3]

Does anyone know if this mandatory speed limiter EU regulation is coming in July this year? With an EDD sometime in May I'm hoping my MY will not have this fitted!

Mandatory speed limiters on UK cars from 2022 | AutoTrader

All new vehicles sold in Europe – including the UK – will be fitted with a mandatory speed limiter from 2022 to keep cars within the UK speed limits and boost road safety.

www.autotrader.co.uk

The Tesla already has this Speed Limit Warning in place but it’s not on unless you decide to use it.
It’s not a limiter as such, it doesn’t actively prevent exceeding a specific speed, unlike the Mercedes I had where you could set a limit yourself, and it wouldn’t be fooled by picking up incorrect limits from side roads. I wish Tesla would adopt that system, It was great!

 

[Adopado]

(it's *possible* they might force enable a bong or something

Elon Musk might be interested in that from what I’ve read ….

 

[randompixel]

I thought this video was interesting in explaining an adaptive speed limiter. On by default but can turn off each drive.

 

[M3noob]

Ought to just restrict to 70mph as mentioned above (if it has to happen at all).

There's a hill I go down on my commute which has a 20mph side road off which my car catches the limit signs on, without fail, and if I'm on AP it brakes down to that speed, which is very annoying.

A motorway with a side road???

 

[Traguar]

We need to be looking at the bigger picture here. Once people become used to them they will make them hard limiters with no facility to turn them off.

 

[Durzel]

A motorway with a side road???

No, I have a 50mph hill that I go down in the morning with a 20mph side road. Nowhere near a motorway. Sorry for any confusion caused.

 

[M3noob]

No, I have a 50mph hill that I go down in the morning with a 20mph side road. Nowhere near a motorway. Sorry for any confusion caused.

I'm confused I thought we were only supposed to use AP on motorways (not that I never do otherwise)

 

[Durzel]

We are supposed to, yeah. Anywhere else is at our own risk (same as on motorways I guess), but it parts of my commute so I let it on occasion.

 

[Xdama]

tell that to a pedestrian

Maybe teaching pedestrians use pedestrian crossings would help plus a rerun of the “Safe Way to Cross a road” campaigns that used to be run in the 70’s on TV. It isn’t always the drivers fault as is being pushed nowadays it can sometimes be bad road awareness on the part of pedestrians too. I had a woman today cross in front of me as I was approaching a car stopped at a red pedestrian crossing …… 1 car length away from the safety of the already green for pedestrians crossing, stupid woman

 

[Jason71]

Maybe teaching pedestrians use pedestrian crossings would help plus a rerun of the “Safe Way to Cross a road” campaigns that used to be run in the 70’s on TV. It isn’t always the drivers fault as is being pushed nowadays it can sometimes be bad road awareness on the part of pedestrians too. I had a woman today cross in front of me as I was approaching a car stopped at a red pedestrian crossing …… 1 car length away from the safety of the already green for pedestrians crossing, stupid woman

sure why not. I think they are one of the few remaining things from that decade that don't feature a convicted paedophile.

 

[Xdama]

sure why not. I think they are one of the few remaining things from that decade that don't feature a convicted paedophile.

Not sure about that, them squirrel’s looked a bit dodgy …… but we knew how to look both ways before crossing a road

 

[Adopado]

sure why not. I think they are one of the few remaining things from that decade that don't feature a convicted paedophile.

Though not about crossing the road we did have the public info film "clunk click every trip" for seat belts ... featuring a paedophile who was never convicted ...