Mandatory Speed Limiters from July 2022?

[phoenixcat]

Does anyone know if this mandatory speed limiter EU regulation is coming in July this year? With an EDD sometime in May I'm hoping my MY will not have this fitted!

Mandatory speed limiters on UK cars from 2022 | AutoTrader

All new vehicles sold in Europe – including the UK – will be fitted with a mandatory speed limiter from 2022 to keep cars within the UK speed limits and boost road safety.

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[Undecided_2]

Apparently, it is coming and all new cars are required to have the boxes fitted. It will be interesting to see what they do as manufacturers such as Tesla have pushed back that the requirements are difficult to implement with current tech/satellite data connectivity and can be overridden each time they kick in anyway.

Personally, they should just restrict cars to the national speed limit and move on. We have way too many signs on our roads and yesterday the Tesla camera misread a 30mph sign as a 20mph as it was off to one side. My VW repeatedly got speed signs incorrect and read the 55mph signs on the back of trucks and would buzz/chime. So infuriating!

 

[M1tch]

Yet more nanny state interference in our lives that will have absolutely zero real world effect.

 

[Mrklaw]

based on GPS or speedo? If speedo you'd end up with queues and everyone stuck behind someone doing 17mph in a 20 zone

 

[Durzel]

Ought to just restrict to 70mph as mentioned above (if it has to happen at all).

There's a hill I go down on my commute which has a 20mph side road off which my car catches the limit signs on, without fail, and if I'm on AP it brakes down to that speed, which is very annoying.

 

[Irata]

There's a hill I go down on my commute which has a 20mph side road off which my car catches the limit signs on, without fail, and if I'm on AP it brakes down to that speed, which is very annoying.

I have a very similar issue. Downward slope and ahead is a 30mph side road, road I'm on is 60. Road I'm on curves right.

Every time here the car incorrectly reads the 30 as the road I'm on. As I have the speed warning chimes set above a certain value, this difference triggers the bongs every time.

 

[GRiLLA]

based on GPS or speedo? If speedo you'd end up with queues and everyone stuck behind someone doing 17mph in a 20 zone

Stuck by 3 mph? That'll soon add up to whole seconds of delay.

 

[Terry F]

Does anyone know if this mandatory speed limiter EU regulation is coming in July this year? With an EDD sometime in May I'm hoping my MY will not have this fitted!

Mandatory speed limiters on UK cars from 2022 | AutoTrader

All new vehicles sold in Europe – including the UK – will be fitted with a mandatory speed limiter from 2022 to keep cars within the UK speed limits and boost road safety.

www.autotrader.co.uk

Your new MY will not have this. Sensationalist headlines that mislead.

July 2022 date only applies to newly launched models (i.e first sales of that new model), for existing models (e.g. M3, MY) then the date is July 2024.

 

[GRiLLA]

Yet more nanny state interference in our lives that will have absolutely zero real world effect.

Source for "zero real world effect"? There is lots of evidence that speed has a huge contribution to road safety, for example the average chance of death from an accident in a 20 limit is 2.5%, whereas it's 20% in a 30 limit. For example see https://www.rospa.com/rospaweb/docs/advice-services/road-safety/drivers/20-mph-zone-factsheet.pdf

 

[Irata]

I've no issue enforcing speed limits. The root cause is the driver and not the car.

But I do worry about unintended consequences of change.

I've seen drivers forget headlights because they are use to a car with auto headlights. I hope we don't have a situation where drivers learn reliance on the system and not the road signs.

 

[teaston]

Source for "zero real world effect"? There is lots of evidence that speed has a huge contribution to road safety, for example the average chance of death from an accident in a 20 limit is 2.5%, whereas it's 20% in a 30 limit. For example see https://www.rospa.com/rospaweb/docs/advice-services/road-safety/drivers/20-mph-zone-factsheet.pdf

As Jeremy Clarkson said:

“Speed has never killed anyone, suddenly becoming stationary… that’s what gets you”

 

[bc1979]

This is only to have a speed limiter fitted, it’s one that you can set yourself as many cars already have not a system to absolutely limit how fast a car can go.

 

[Undecided_2]

Source for "zero real world effect"? There is lots of evidence that speed has a huge contribution to road safety, for example the average chance of death from an accident in a 20 limit is 2.5%, whereas it's 20% in a 30 limit. For example see https://www.rospa.com/rospaweb/docs/advice-services/road-safety/drivers/20-mph-zone-factsheet.pdf

I have zero issue with limiting speed and the data shows less deaths when it’s reduced however, until they sort the GPS out to be super reliable we’ll see little benefit. Or they implement some sort of tag system that tells the car what speed it is when they pass a marker on the road. Whatever, it’s going to happen whether we like it or not if we want to keep our own mode of travel.

 

[Mrklaw]

Stuck by 3 mph? That'll soon add up to whole seconds of delay.

true. I still can't quite get my head around the 30mph sections of the A40 where its clearly designed to be faster with slip roads etc and no pedestrians. Just feels so slooow.

20 isn't so bad if everyone's doing it

 

[davidmc]

Fast & Furious 8 will be interesting

 

[Irata]

Fast & Furious 8 will be interesting

"Limited and even more furious"

Coming to a cinema soon.

 

[Tony Hoyle]

Sigh every time the press regurgitate this story they get it wrong.. this it's not a speed limiter in the sense you're all taking it.

It's haptic feedback as you cross the speed limit. Pressure on the accelerator pedal or (after lobbying from car manufacturers who said that was too hard) audio/visual warnings - not sure if the engine power stuff is optional in that case, that's new since the draft I last read. It even says in the legislation to make a hard limit would be dangerous as it could prevent safe overtaking etc. and also acknowledges GPS databases have errors.

Tesla already conform probably as they have visual feedback (it's *possible* they might force enable a bong or something), although I'm not a lawyer to tell.

 

[Irata]

But that's the worry.

Because it's not a limiter, they should not have called it a limiter.

It's a speed assistant warning. It should not be left to the media to communicate this, because the media are getting it wrong.

 

[WannabeOwner]

It's haptic feedback as you cross the speed limit ... Tesla already conform probably

Definitely conforms. Car doesn't attempt to slow down, on AP, until it has PASSED the Limit Sign

 

[teaston]

Fast & Furious 8 will be interesting

8? You know 9 is already out?