MASTER THREAD: 2019.36.1 update released with 5% power increase

[WilliamG]

The release note does mention that using the hold setting will "maximise" range. Which you could read something or nothing into....

I'd wager the difference between using the new Hold setting and not is minimal at best.

 

[BobAbooey]

I havent received my update yet, but the car for the first time this morning charged over the normal 278-279..... maybe I will be getting my update today.

Same with mine it charged to what it did before

 

[djroberts]

When something like this happens, why not just "roll back" to the prior firmware version right away, rather than leaving new firmware problems out in the field while they scramble to fix and re-release? Seems that would be a "safer" and quicker approach.

Rollbacks after often more difficult than incremental big fixes.

 

[sperkin]

Nothing about increased range?

No increased range. My LR RWD still gets 299 miles at 100% and my LR AWD still gets 290 miles at 100%.

 

[Apowertrip]

Has anyone seen an increase in miles on the battery since the latest update nov 8th?? It was announced this upgrade would increase the range on the model 3 and I haven’t seen any change. Have you??

 

[Zaxxon]

Has anyone seen an increase in miles on the battery since the latest update nov 8th?? It was announced this upgrade would increase the range on the model 3 and I haven’t seen any change. Have you??

Power increased, not range.

 

[AlanSubie4Life]

Power increased, not range.

It is not clear yet - depends on which car the OP has. There’s a lot of confusion on this topic. All of the 2020 vehicles (that they currently sell) show better efficiency numbers than the 2019 vehicles. Both the SR+ and AWD show increased range on the website (250/322).

It seems likely that they increased the range by increasing efficiency at the top end, which also could mean more power for a given battery current . EPA numbers show similar improvements city and highway cycle.

 

[Zaxxon]

It is not clear yet - depends on which car the OP has. There’s a lot of confusion on this topic. All of the 2020 vehicles show better efficiency numbers than the 2019 vehicles. Both the SR+ and AWD show increased range on the website.

It seems likely that they increased the range by increasing efficiency at the top end, which also could mean more power for a given battery current . EPA numbers show similar improvements city and highway cycle.

But this thread is about the current update, 2019.36. There is no range increase via this update to any vehicle. 5% power for 3, 3% for S/X.

 

[Maaz]

Lol everyone misinterpreted when elon mentioned it. He only mentioned the software update will add a 5% Increase in power. NOT RANGE. He did however begin to mention one pedal driving will also be included in the update and will help increase range. Your car isn’t magically getting its range increased.

 

[AlanSubie4Life]

There is no range increase via this update to any vehicle. 5% power for 3, 3% for S/X.

Interesting. Do we know whether better efficiency is achievable though? I would kind of expect it with the power update but maybe it is different.

Better efficiency would not have to show up in the rated miles because that is just a choice of the constant on Tesla’s part. You would still get more range even if your rated miles were the same.

 

[AlanSubie4Life]

Lol everyone misinterpreted when elon mentioned it. He only mentioned the software update will add a 5% Increase in power. NOT RANGE. He did however begin to mention one pedal driving will also be included in the update and will help increase range. Your car isn’t magically getting its range increased.

Again, unless the new 2020 vehicles have fundamentally different hardware (which they may), there is reason to expect an efficiency improvement for existing vehicles. We’ll see.

They may never update the constant for older vehicles, even if their efficiency improves. No idea. So you could get a range increase even though your miles stay the same.

 

[Zaxxon]

Interesting. Do we know whether better efficiency is achievable though? I would kind of expect it with the power update but maybe it is different.

Better efficiency would not have to show up in the rated miles because that is just a choice of the constant on Tesla’s part.

I got the update last night and played with the new regen-all-the-way-to-zero feature. Seems like that will allow for slightly greater regen energy reclamation. Not sure how appreciable it'll be, though, as there's relatively little energy coming in at such slow speeds.

 

[RobRain]

MASTER THREAD: 2019.36.2.1 roll out and features

 

[AlanSubie4Life]

I got the update last night and played with the new regen-all-the-way-to-zero feature. Seems like that will allow for slightly greater regen energy reclamation. Not sure how appreciable it'll be, though, as there's relatively little energy coming in at such slow speeds.

I agree that is unlikely the source. The improvement in range for 2020 vehicles has to come from somewhere - but probably not that!

 

[Zaxxon]

I agree that is unlikely the source. The improvement in range for 2020 vehicles has to come from somewhere - but probably not that!

Also keep on mind that Tesla has traditionally under-reported range vs what the EPA allows them to claim. They did this when rating the original 3 LR RWD at 310 when it qualified for more like 330. Musk said on the most recent earnings call that they did the same with the current S (370 vs 373 or so). Raising #s does not necessarily imply an actual efficiency improvement.

 

[Maaz]

Also keep on mind that Tesla has traditionally under-reported range vs what the EPA allows them to claim. They did this when rating the original 3 LR RWD at 310 when it qualified for more like 330. Musk said on the most recent earnings call that they did the same with the current S (370 vs 373 or so). Raising #s does not necessarily imply an actual efficiency improvement.

Exactly this. Elon said himself that they under rated their epa ratings. Now they are just in line of what should have been advertised originally.

 

[Antwan50]

The release note does mention that using the hold setting will "maximise" range. Which you could read something or nothing into....

True. I thought they were bumping us 310 range mile folks to 325.

 

[AlanSubie4Life]

Exactly this. Elon said himself that they under rated their epa ratings. Now they are just in line of what should have been advertised originally.

Except: unless they have been allowed by the EPA to use a different method than the standard 70% derating of the weighted highway/city cycle results, there is no way to get to 322 rated miles on the AWD without some sort of hardware or software improvement. The test results simply don’t allow it with the last dyno result published. The formula works out to 310 miles! So my understanding is that is all they can claim. They derated the SR+, and for a while, the LR RWD.

For the SR+ it is closer - works out to be closer to 247. But no way with the AWD without some sort of change (hardware or software). Or an allowance from the EPA to use some other formula (no idea how common that is).

AWD Dyno Results and Calculations:

https://iaspub.epa.gov/otaqpub/display_file.jsp?docid=46585&flag=1

 

[MagnusMako]

But this thread is about the current update, 2019.36. There is no range increase via this update to any vehicle. 5% power for 3, 3% for S/X.

Range improvement suppose to be in the current update via one pedal driving improvement which was mentioned on the Q3 earnings call.

 

[LJS22]

Anyone notice the audio on YouTube sounding incredible? But it has a bug where it shoots your volume up all the way when you go to it and exit. Scared me.