MASTER THREAD: 2019.36.2.1 - new HOLD mode and other features

[TehBRD]

Got mine about an hour ago. Looks like they're pushing out TONS of updates in the last few days and a majority are to 36.2.1.

 

[HighZ]

One alternative would be hold-for-drive, creep-for-reverse, as someone else suggested, but here's a random crazy thought: scroll wheel "trim": When in reverse (or maybe when in hold regardless of gear) the right scroll wheel is inch-forward, inch-backward. Each click moves the car 1 inch.

Interesting idea. Tesla likes to keep it simple though. Imagine someone scrolling the wrong wheel (thinking they were doing volume) and BAM! Ouch.

My idea would be to let the car use its sensors to detect when it is close to something in front or back, then go into roll mode so one is not constantly trying to get it off of hold or gauge the distance with the pedal. But I haven't had enough experience with it yet to decide if it will be an issue.

 

[SoManyM3s]

Drive down a hill at 5mph and then come off the accelerator. You can see the car will actually use energy to stop itself. Repeatable every time.

I've done it like 15 times already going down my parking deck. Everytime theres a green bar all the way to zero. Maybe its different on different models. Mine is a HW3, RWD.

 

[WilliamG]

I've done it like 15 times already going down my parking deck. Everytime theres a green bar all the way to zero. Maybe its different on different models. Mine is a HW3, RWD.

Interesting. Mine is AWD 3P+, HW3. Going down a hill at 5mph and letting off the accelerator definitely consumes energy and doesn’t regenerate it (or at least the consumption is higher than the regeneration according to the energy bar). I tested this a zillion times, too.

 

[SageBrush]

36.2.1 installing on my mid 2018 LR model as I type

 

[diamond.g]

I just went by a few construction zones on AP (HW2.5). No come visualization or detection. Cones were right in the drive line and I got not warning.

@verygreen says the cars see the cones but doesn’t send the data to the MCU in the HW3 format it is expecting to show them.

 

[Dan203]

I literally just got the notification that the install is complete. Gonna go play just to see if the ol butt dyno feels the difference

 

[jordanair45]

I installed the update yesterday. The Power increase was very noticeable. I like the new stop and hold function. Picks up traffic cones well but struggles to see the taller and skinner traffic cone.

 

[C141medic]

I’m HW 2.5 and we don’t need no stinkin cones

 

[lairdb]

On another topic, I was hopeful that Summon-and-Exit would finally work for me after this update. Does anyone know how to make this work?

 

[Pbaker609]

increased supercharging rate isn’t in this update for SR/+. I just arrived at a supercharger with 26% batter remaining and used the preconditioning feature and only peaked at 96kw

 

[Rik59]

Ok, this sucks. Just installed 36.2.1 on my 2017 Model X and NO FULL REGEN. What gives? Why not? Any other X owners get shortchanged on this one?

 

[sa012]

I'm not sure if I have just missed this in the past but today when I was backing up into my garage it gave me how many inches I was away from an object??? Is that new?

 

[mbdionio]

yey! finally getting this update.

 

[youngmcdonald]

I just went by a few construction zones on AP (HW2.5). No come visualization or detection. Cones were right in the drive line and I got not warning.

Oh that’s helpful. It’s no good. But it’s helpful that you were able to test that.

So, people who bought AutoPilot (BETA) are now to be left out of certain important things that contribute to autopilot such as, obstruction detection, forcing them to buy full self driving? Is Cone a NOAP only feature? If not, isn’t this a little unfair?

 

[C141medic]

I'm not sure if I have just missed this in the past but today when I was backing up into my garage it gave me how many inches I was away from an object??? Is that new?

Nope

 

[whatthe2]

Oh that’s helpful. It’s no good. But it’s helpful that you were able to test that.

So, people who bought AutoPilot (BETA) are now to be left out of certain important things that contribute to autopilot such as, obstruction detection, forcing them to buy full self driving? Is Cone a NOAP only feature? If not, isn’t this a little unfair?

As @diamond.g pointed out seems to be a HW3 function. Which I think is good news as they move to the next HW platform being able to handle more.

 

[drtimhill]

As @diamond.g pointed out seems to be a HW3 function. Which I think is good news as they move to the next HW platform being able to handle more.

I'm on HW3 and confirm seeing cones .. it's actually impressive how accurate it is .. it seems to spot every one. I've not tried AP to see if it actually handles them correctly yet (lane changes etc).

 

[youngmcdonald]

Just tried the HOLD mode and while it’s “fun” and “interesting”, I doubt it’ll make a real world difference in the car’s efficiency and brake life.

It’s important to note that CREEP and ROLL are acceleration features and HOLD is a deceleration/stopped car feature. That said, is there a reason why this HOLD mode is implemented as an extension of ROLL mode? I’d rather have HOLD as an extension of CREEP. Meaning, engage CREEP mode when car is accelerating from a complete stop, and engage HOLD when car is decelerating, bringing it to a full stop with increased regenerative braking. And also HOLD when stopped at a steep angle, like it does today.

Unfortunately, given the way it’s implemented, the CREEP mode feels a lot more natural, at least to me.

1) It keeps the brake pads in use to go from 5 mph to 0 mph, keeping the rust off,

2) the car has a satisfying low acceleration as soon as foot lifts the brake (enforces a good habit of keeping your foot ready to hit brakes), and you know when you’re in Drive vs Park/Neutral/Reverse.

3) It engages HOLD mode automatically (or manually when one needs to) when the car is stopped at a steep angle

 

[thunderP]

I don’t have FSD and cone detection works on mine.

Oh that’s helpful. It’s no good. But it’s helpful that you were able to test that.

So, people who bought AutoPilot (BETA) are now to be left out of certain important things that contribute to autopilot such as, obstruction detection, forcing them to buy full self driving? Is Cone a NOAP only feature? If not, isn’t this a little unfair?